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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Just like all entitlement programs, HOW it is implemented is critical to the viability of the entitlement.
    I seriously doubt that Congressional Democrats would vote to collapse all of the entitlement programs into this one entitlement.
    To play devil's advocate
    Probably should've been clearer. Not 240 million people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Probably should've been clearer. Not 240 million people.
    So, GMI only for a chosen few? Exactly who should be given GMI (you could have just clarified in your above post)?

    From the article that you posted, it was proposing it for all citizens. Did you miss the following excerpt?

    ... suggested guaranteeing $10,000 a year to anyone meeting the following conditions: be American, be over 21, stay out of jail...

    What qualifications would you suggest, and how many would qualify?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    So, GMI only for a chosen few? Exactly who should be given GMI (you could have just clarified in your above post)?

    From the article that you posted, it was proposing it for all citizens. Did you miss the following excerpt?

    ... suggested guaranteeing $10,000 a year to anyone meeting the following conditions: be American, be over 21, stay out of jail...

    What qualifications would you suggest, and how many would qualify?

    He has a problem with that whole specifics thing. Speaking only in general terms allows his "I didnt take a specific position" exit strategy after being proven wrong.



    Wanna hear something funny? I am in favor of the GMI under a very strict set of guidelines.

    1. GMI is indexed to 200% of the federal poverty level.
    2. GMI is applied for in the same manner that your W4 is done.
    3. GMI is available only for those with a HS diploma or GED and a clean criminal record.
    4. GMI is available only to those over 18 that do not qualify for Social security or disability.
    5. GMI is available only to the head of household. (kids of dependents can be claimed as dependents for GMI purposes)
    6. GMI replaces all forms of welfare for new applicants. GMI is not available for anyone currently receiving welfare benefits.
    7. ANY kind of GMI fraud or attempted fraud carries a minimum penalty of a lifetime ban from any welfare benefit. This includes GMI and current welfare recipients.
    8. GMI cannot be deducted from for tax purposes.
    9. GMI recipients working less than 40 hours per week MUST be actively looking for full time work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    He has a problem with that whole specifics thing. Speaking only in general terms allows his "I didnt take a specific position" exit strategy after being proven wrong.
    He wont answer any specific questions because he doesnt know the answer. They live in a vacuum where all things can be paid for with imaginary money or taxing rich people and assume all rich people continue to pay whatever is asked of them.

    When the solution to a problem is to rob peter to pay paul, then rob paul to pay peter, you arent about solutions, you are about pandering and pyramid schemes that have already proven not to work.
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