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    "What part of the program is ineffective?"

    "PEOPLE BUY ALCOHOL AND CIGS HURRDURR"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Isnt gonna happen with a democrat in office.
    I disagree. May not happen with the moron we have now in office, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    "What part of the program is ineffective?"

    "PEOPLE BUY ALCOHOL AND CIGS HURRDURR"

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    I don't mean this in a rude way, but you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    I don't mean this in a rude way, but you're an idiot.
    Dont be so harsh. Blank just believes that luxury items should be available to everyone, whether they can pay for them or not.



    Blank is right on one thing though. More money is lost and wasted by corporate fraud on a yearly basis than welfare fraud. Then again, medicare/medicaid and social security fraud accounts for a lot more than both of those combined. I am quite willing to bet that fraud within SS, SSI, medicare and medicaid account for a quarter trillion a year in wasted govt spending.

    Add in tax fraud and people that dont do their taxes incorrectly and you can probably add another quarter trillion in funds the govt isnt collecting.


    There is a very simple fix to the tax problem, thats either a consumption tax or a flat tax.

    Fraud is far more difficult to root out. I would propose 25k new fraud investigators within the problem programs. These new investigators would pay for themselves by rooting out less than 10% of fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Dont be so harsh. Blank just believes that luxury items should be available to everyone, whether they can pay for them or not.
    It's not that I believe in it, I honestly just don't care. It doesn't affect what I contribute to the system whether everyone buys cigarettes or not. And to believe that it's as simple as banning EBT cards from gas stations or controlling what they do with the money is incredibly naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    It's not that I believe in it, I honestly just don't care. It doesn't affect what I contribute to the system whether everyone buys cigarettes or not. And to believe that it's as simple as banning EBT cards from gas stations or controlling what they do with the money is incredibly naive.
    Stupidest thing typed out by a keypad in the history of humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    It's not that I believe in it, I honestly just don't care. It doesn't affect what I contribute to the system whether everyone buys cigarettes or not. And to believe that it's as simple as banning EBT cards from gas stations or controlling what they do with the money is incredibly naive.
    You're right, it wouldn't change how much is to the system, but eventually the cost put into it may drop, people may not have it that don't NEED it, and the positives continue growing. Maybe you just like the country to waste money, who knows. Not caring though is just ignorant if you actually care about the countries future.

    I don't think anyone thinks banning EBT cards from gas stations is a fix all solution, nobody said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post

    I don't think anyone thinks banning EBT cards from gas stations is a fix all solution, nobody said that.
    I was more or less questioning why someone, who is poor, would shop for food and necessities at a gas station. I mean if youre poor, why would you buy milk which is 20-50% MORE at a gas station? The real reason is because some places will trade EBT cards for cash.
    Do i think limiting EBT cards to groceries solves the problem>? Nope, but its a minor step in the right direction. If you cant agree to that, then theres no reason to debate any reforms because you (IMO) arent serious about tackling the spending problems in washington
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