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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    It's not the Dr Thunder that makes people ask questions....



    Sinfix, get the facts straight. Obama never said that quote.

    Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

    I suggest that you do some research before publishing these as statements from Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Sinfix, get the facts straight. Obama never said that quote.

    Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

    I suggest that you do some research before publishing these as statements from Obama.
    I understand the context of the quote. When you lump it in with everything else that Obama doesnt say, that is where i have issues. Also taking into consideration that Obama has the most control of the political winds. Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction, i wonder if Obama would stand with americans who value constitutional rights. Probably not, seeing as how Obama is one controlling the fan. The issue with that quote is the lengths Obama goes to confirm in support in certain areas and not others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I understand the context of the quote. When you lump it in with everything else that Obama doesnt say, that is where i have issues. Also taking into consideration that Obama has the most control of the political winds. Should the political winds shift in an ugly direction, i wonder if Obama would stand with americans who value constitutional rights. Probably not, seeing as how Obama is one controlling the fan. The issue with that quote is the lengths Obama goes to confirm in support in certain areas and not others.
    The quote that you posted is not a quote - it is an outright lie to say that he stated that, or implied it. You may have chosen to infer that from the statement, but the fact is - he did not even make the statement that you might have inferred it from.

    When you do not research and verify the quote, you nullify your credibility when you have actual, correct quotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    I suggest that you do some research before publishing these as statements from Obama.

    That suggestion will be as pointless as it was when you said the same thing to blank. They would rater pull a pisture off the web than actually learn what they are crying about.


    My opinions:

    1. AJ has not been a fan of Obama from the start. They were pretty critical of him going back as far as his trip to Egypt right after being elected.
    2. The birthers were/are idiots and Obama's team played them from the start. What better way to gin up racial solidarity than to have a bunch of white guys complain about Obama being unqualified to run based on where he was born?
    3. I have nothing else but 2 seems to be too short of a list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    That suggestion will be as pointless as it was when you said the same thing to blank. They would rater pull a pisture off the web than actually learn what they are crying about.


    My opinions:

    1. AJ has not been a fan of Obama from the start. They were pretty critical of him going back as far as his trip to Egypt right after being elected.
    2. The birthers were/are idiots and Obama's team played them from the start. What better way to gin up racial solidarity than to have a bunch of white guys complain about Obama being unqualified to run based on where he was born?
    3. I have nothing else but 2 seems to be too short of a list.
    I fully agree with #3.
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