What decades of Democrats being in control will get you...

[BanginJimmy]

Maybe you don't fire the ones that you have?

Disagree here. IMO if you want to improve schools you fire the bad teachers and administrators and make rooms for ones that care. It is nearly impossible to fire a bad teacher and as a result, most school districts don't even try. Our dwindling test scores and tech advantage is proof positive of this.
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[David88vert]

Disagree here. IMO if you want to improve schools you fire the bad teachers and administrators and make rooms for ones that care. It is nearly impossible to fire a bad teacher and as a result, most school districts don't even try. Our dwindling test scores and tech advantage is proof positive of this.
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That works when you have the plan to improve the system overall, and have the classroom ratios in check. Detroit has some of the worst classroom ratios already, and took steps to make it worse. Saddling a good teacher with way too many students can be worse than having them deal with a few not-as-good teachers. Our local schools are losing their good teachers right now from overcrowding the classrooms - I've seen that myself.

[BanginJimmy]

That works when you have the plan to improve the system overall, and have the classroom ratios in check. Detroit has some of the worst classroom ratios already, and took steps to make it worse. Saddling a good teacher with way too many students can be worse than having them deal with a few not-as-good teachers. Our local schools are losing their good teachers right now from overcrowding the classrooms - I've seen that myself.

I get you. I think everyone can agree that fixing our school system should be the #1 priority at all levels. The mess we have going right now isnt working for a lot of reasons and I have yet to see someone come out with a large scale idea to fix it. Charter and private schools take some pressure off the govt ones, but there is no possible way to expand either of those enough to make it universally feasible.

I say it should be #1 because it is an unarguable fact that higher education leads to lower crime and higher earnings. Improvements in those 2 areas lead to improvements in many other problem areas of our society also.

[David88vert]

I get you. I think everyone can agree that fixing our school system should be the #1 priority at all levels. The mess we have going right now isnt working for a lot of reasons and I have yet to see someone come out with a large scale idea to fix it. Charter and private schools take some pressure off the govt ones, but there is no possible way to expand either of those enough to make it universally feasible.

I say it should be #1 because it is an unarguable fact that higher education leads to lower crime and higher earnings. Improvements in those 2 areas lead to improvements in many other problem areas of our society also.

You shouldn't see a "large scale solution". Primary public education is run at a state level, and should not be at a federal level. Let states compete and use education to draw people to their state - it already works this way. Unfortunately, GA is way behind many other states in regards to competition with other states.

[BanginJimmy]

You shouldn't see a "large scale solution". Primary public education is run at a state level, and should not be at a federal level. Let states compete and use education to draw people to their state - it already works this way. Unfortunately, GA is way behind many other states in regards to competition with other states.

Even on the state level I dont see anyone with a solution. I do agree with you that the federal govt needs to stay out of way. The Dept of Ed is nothing more than a bureaucratic mess that takes money from the system and offers nothing positive to the system.

[David88vert]

Even on the state level I dont see anyone with a solution. I do agree with you that the federal govt needs to stay out of way. The Dept of Ed is nothing more than a bureaucratic mess that takes money from the system and offers nothing positive to the system.

That's why we have county boards of education.