Do you think the fact that he smoked weed made him a bad person?
What about the fact that they caught him with jewelry that wasnt his?
Do you think the fact that he smoked weed made him a bad person?
What about the fact that they caught him with jewelry that wasnt his?
I suppose the better question would be, do you believe those attributes contributed to his death? Why or why not?
I'll answer these questions in detail after dinner.....
but the fact that you even asked them in insulting and proves to me that you're not paying attention.
Please do. It's hard to decipher your point through all your non-sensical ramblingOriginally Posted by Sinfix_15
they only invesrtigated 1, DOJ refused to look at the black panther case.
cherry picking according to race
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It's hard for you to decipher a point because you lack reading comprehension or the ability to think outside of your own little box.
Now i'll proceed to answer the questions
They probably didnt look at a black panther case because there is no black panther case. No cherry picking about it. Just because they said they plan to offer a bounty for his capture doesn't mean they committed a crime. I understand it feels like they did to you, but remember, the law is very specific, and they don't try cases based on emotion. That's not how it works.
My opinion of drug use varies from case to case. I don't think drug use is an automatic qualifier that you're a bad person or bad kid. The choice to use drugs is about like a coach calling a flea flicker triple option reverse.... if it works for you, it works. When it doesn't, you have to take responsibility and not use the excuse of "it worked for that other guy!!!". A lot of my family are drug addicts and i am constantly hammering them about it. Me and my cousins are all about the same age. When we were in school, my cousins were constantly getting in trouble, getting expelled, ect ect ect.... Every time they got in trouble they would also claim that i was doing the same things they were, and for the most part, i was. The same patterns continued until we became adults. My cousins all have 2-3-4 kids they dont care of, have been in and out of jail, lived with their parents most of their life, dont have their own house or cars and are pretty much bums. Our entire life, theyve all been saying "you did it too" or "You do everything we do and your mom thinks youre some kind of perfect angel" and theyre pretty mad about it. So i told them when they start smoking and drinking in their own house, driving their own cars and paying for their own stuff, then they wont have to listen to anyone's advice anymore. I've drank, smoked and used a variety of recreational drugs since i was about 15. I made good grades in school, went on to college, have a career, live in my own house, pay for all of my own shit and take responsibility for all of my actions. If at any point in my life any of those things would have been in jeopardy, i would have adjusted my ways.
I dont think being a drug user is an automatic qualifier for being a bad person, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions. If drugs are affecting your life, you cant lay on the excuse that "John Doe" uses drugs and its ok. That's what you have a habit of doing. You continuously are an advocate for weed, but you refuse to take the bad with the good. Trayvon clearly had some issues going on in his life that i'm sure drug use was not helping. While i dont think weed specifically had a negative effect on him the night he met Zimmerman, i do believe that opiates could have severely affected his judgment.
Parenting could have prevented everything that happened to Trayvon. I keep hearing black people in the media saying "now we have to teach our kids how to walk not to fast or not too slow so people dont think theyre suspicious"... That's some fucking ignorant bullshit and bad parenting. Theyre making an excuse for their kid's actions and ignoring the fact that he chose to assault someone. He chose to turn away from home and confront someone physically. The kid had a cell phone...... he could have called either his dad or the police. My parents ALWAYS instructed me to call them if i needed anything.... My parents were not the type to threaten me about getting in trouble, they wouldnt say "you better not be drinking" or anything like that. Anytime i left the house, my mom would say "if you drink anything, dont drive, stay where you're at or call me to come pick you up, i wont be mad if you call me, i just dont want you to drive.... seriously, if it's 4 in the morning, call me".... and she would say this every single time..... all the time, every time.... she would never not say it. The problem with most parents is that theyre either too strict or completely absent.
Trayvon was caught in a situation where he didnt have the tools to make the right decision. Maybe drugs played a role in his poor decision, maybe they didnt, but Trayvon's history shows that he was a troubled youth who had a habit of making bad decisions. His parents could have helped him, maybe they were trying to and just not doing enough..... but that is the problem. When faced with a unfavorable situation, Trayvon's instinct was to be confrontational and respond violently. Just one of a string of bad decisions in his young life.
They could have. I already spoke in detail about the psychological affect that opiates have on a person. I dont think weed contributed in any way to that specific event, but the opiates could have. Weed doesnt make a person agitated, opiates do.
The medical examiner only noted weed in his system at the time of death. What opiates do you believe we're in his system that the medical examiner didnt notice?
The type of test administered can render different results. Your basic drug test will not show opiates..... The typical drug test might as well be called "the looking for weed test" so it's no surprise that THC is the only thing they found. they had no reason to do a full drug test on a 17 year old boy who had died. They werent seeking a cause of death and he wasnt on trial. There was no point of looking any deeper than they did.....
Trayvon talked about taking codeine.... a highly addictive.... arguably one of the most addictive street drugs....
So why would they do a thorough drug screen on everyone else that dies, and skip Trayvon Martin, in a high profile case? Was this the testimony of the medical examiner and forensic toxicologists on this case, that they spent weeks on this toxicology report and decided to skip doing a thorough one on just him because he had no reason to believe he was on anything other than weed?
You think the same drug screen that your avg joe gets is the same as the one someone like Lebron James would get? The answer is cost..... the "thorough drug screen" that they do on everyone just isnt that thorough. At my job, i can view drug test results or send people to get drugs tests..... i can tell you from first hand experience that drug tests are a joke. You can get high on your way to go take a drug test and pass it. It honestly baffles me how primitive and unreliable drug testing is. My honest opinion of why drug testing is so poor is because employers dont really want to know the truth. Real drug tests are expensive and most companies view drug testing as a formality.
If i told that to the CEO of my company, he would laugh at me...... but i'm not gonna spell it out for them.... i'm not gonna say, "hey, ride with me to go take a drug test, i'm gonna get high right before i walk in and still pass "
There's also an anomaly where some people just cant fail a drug test.....
These doctors say forensic toxicology reports are the most thorough you can get. Did Trayvon somehow get a special test just for weed?
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides...y-tests?page=2
These doctors are saying something completely different than you. We're not talking about a McDonalds employment drug screening here. We're talking about autopsy reports here.
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides...y-tests?page=2
I already answered this..... Drug tests are not 100%... not even close....
So what are we suggesting? a kid that says he uses drugs, doesnt not use drugs?
Was he claiming drug use to sound cool or fit in?
Ok. Well the doctors are saying the drug tests for autopsy reports are 100%, and you're saying something different, do you have scientific evidence to refute their claims?
I'm suggesting that if the medical examiner didn't find opiates in his system at the time of death, then we can't assume there was anything other than what the examiner found at the time of death. It doesn't matter if he said he binge drank the night before, if the screening didn't find anything, there wasnt anything there.
Doctors never revise what they say do they? That's why we have conclusive evidence regarding the nutritional value of milk and eggs.
I'll work on the scientific evidence. My opinion is based on personal experience. I've seen a lot of drug tests....
I'm guessing those forensic toxicologists have seen a lot more toxicology screens than you have.
Sometimes it takes a thief to catch a thief.
Keep in mind, we still live in an era where your doctor asks you "on a scale of 1-10, how much pain are you in"..... there's flaws in the system.
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OK lets make it simpler.
GZ has the FBI, local police, prosecution all agreeing NO RACE WAS INVOLVED IN thIS CASE. DOJ Claims "it will look into possible civil rights violations"
Black Panthers brandish a club in front of a voting booth an tell people to vote for Obama in 2008, and refuse to leave when asked. - DOJ , no investigation, CLEAR civil rights violations, voter fraud, etc
black panthers announce on live tv a bounty on GZ head, black panthers is a racist organization, EASILY civil rights case, inciting of violence, disturbing the peace, terroristic threats- DOJ refuses to investigate.
youre 100000% wrong, what they did was ILLEGAL.
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Ok. If I'm wrong, why haven't the black panthers been indicted on anything yet? Keep in mind, if you suggest it's racially motivated, you're race baiting.
Denial in 3......2.......
No race baiting needed.
Eric Holder is the most inept Attorney General this country has ever had, and a disgrace to that office.
you know my answer already, I ALREADY GAVE IT.
they havent been investigated because eric holder doesnt make a habit of going after his own race.
i just gave you 2 EASY clear cut civil rights cases, and 1 case with absolutely NO race involved. the DOJ has only agreed to "investigate" 1 of them.
By sheer conclusions, you have to conclude that he is racially and politically motivated.
its not race baiting at all, its facts. You cannot dispute facts.
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DO you even know what thread you are in?
this tactic of asking questions ive already answered and circling around my points is getting old
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I'm just pointing out the intellectual inequity within this discussion.
It's deplorable to suggest that race was a factor in one case, but A.O.K. To suggest it was a factor in another, particularly when it suits your narrative.
Please. Continue....
Clearly that is not what i did. ill just chalk it up to you missing the point again.
Black panthers are racist. Its not better than the KKK. they broke the law, DOJ doesnt care. Same with the polling case.
Racist organization makes threats, breaks the law= nothing to see , no investigation
Hispanic man goes through our justice system, is acquitted , and DOJ wants to investigate (DESPItE FBI FINDINg OTHERWISE) possible civil rights violations.
Its racism at its core, and it has far more teeth than the assumption the left thinks GZ was a racist.
its really simple, surprised you cant follow it
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I know.
.....I know.
I have 3 Klan members in my family who once was at a rally and it was a peaceful protest of rights till Panthers showed up looking to fight over racial things.
So the Klan rally was peaceful until some black folks showed up? You don't say. This guy can't be real.
Stop sending me pics of your weiner
Well then stay out of the male-seeking-male chatrooms I'm in. When you said "Hey sailor, how about pulling into my port?" I thought you needed to know what kind of devastation your rectum was in for.
Wow... This thread took a turn for the gay.
However, CarlosDanger is the best name ever. Welcome to the site, you should make an intro thread.
Oh... and
Two cases......
Case 1, zero evidence of racism... none... not a single bit.... every person who participated in the judicial process confirmed that there was no racism....
Eric Holder is now investigating that person and put out a public statement asking people to come forward with evidence of racism.
Case 2, The epitome of racism, as racist as racism can possibly get.... the very definition of racism is caught on camera being racist and breaking the law on NUMEROUS occasions.... there's an on camera confession to racism.... makes terrorist threats on camera....
Eric Holder is not only not investigating that person....... HE FUCKING PARDONED HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
Eric Holder is a racist piece of shit and considering how Holder has Obama's unconditional support, there's no reason to believe Obama isnt a racist piece of shit too.
Last edited by Sinfix_15; 07-26-2013 at 07:11 AM.
My plan was to look around a bit to see if I like the site before introducing myself. But when I read the "Klan" post I wasn't sure if I should be horrified or laugh. So I broke radio silence a little sooner than I originally wanted to. In my opinion you have to get the feel of a site before you go commenting. So I'm going back to laying low and reading. But thanks for the welcome.
It's astonishing how someone so foolish can be so arrogant in regards to their own idiotic opinions. You are truly delusional sir. You should seek help. You're always wrong.... yet in your mind you're a brilliant intellectual.
Last edited by Sinfix_15; 07-26-2013 at 07:00 AM.
All I know is... I'm never going to disagree or do anything other than blindly defend every action that Republicans take. Now of course, Professor blank will come back with "LOL I don't blindly follow anyone. I only use logic and science to form my opinions which just happen to line directly up with the far left" (well, probably not that last part and hahahahahahahahahaha).
This all started because Trayvon was homophobic. /thread
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