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    Part of the disconnect seems to be that some people think laws and justice are the same thing, others don't see that as necessarily true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Part of the disconnect seems to be that some people think laws and justice are the same thing, others don't see that as necessarily true.
    i see the difference, hence why i said not convicting him of 2nd degree made sense, but i think enough evidence presented to convict him of manslaughter. justice wasnt served



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    i see the difference, hence why i said not convicting him of 2nd degree made sense, but i think enough evidence presented to convict him of manslaughter. justice wasnt served

    Name a single piece of evidence that refutes Zimmerman's claim of self defense. I have heard of none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    i see the difference, hence why i said not convicting him of 2nd degree made sense, but i think enough evidence presented to convict him of manslaughter. justice wasnt served
    It sounds like you are mixing the two to me (law and justice). From my view, he didn't break any law (including manslaughter) but I also believe he should be held responsible for his poor actions and the justice system failed to do that because the laws didn't allow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    It sounds like you are mixing the two to me (law and justice). From my view, he didn't break any law (including manslaughter) but I also believe he should be held responsible for his poor actions and the justice system failed to do that because the laws didn't allow it.
    This is why we also have a civil law system, for cases that dont meet criminal standards but there is negligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    This is why we also have a civil law system, for cases that dont meet criminal standards but there is negligence.
    Yes but as of today, Trayvon has paid a high price for his poor decisions that night but Zimmerman has not been held accountable for his poor decisions that night. That is why people are upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Yes but as of today, Trayvon has paid a high price for his poor decisions that night but Zimmerman has not been held accountable for his poor decisions that night. That is why people are upset.
    Zimmerman's poor decisions would not have resulted in anyone's harm or death if not for Trayvon's poor decision to resort to violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Zimmerman's poor decisions would not have resulted in anyone's harm or death if not for Trayvon's poor decision to resort to violence.
    And Trayvon wouldn't have made that poor decision to resort to violence if Zimmerman hadn't made his poor decisions. Both people's bad decisions played roles in what happened. They both share part of the blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Yes but as of today, Trayvon has paid a high price for his poor decisions that night but Zimmerman has not been held accountable for his poor decisions that night. That is why people are upset.
    beause like you said, the law protects GZ, the only crime really committed was TM assault. That was what was intiated.

    Everything GZ did up until that point , was NOT criminal.

    If GZ had NO attack marks, i think hes found guilty, IMO. The fact he could show he was attacked, and TM had no marks, and eyewitness saw TM punching, that is when the law protects GZ.
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