Union pulls support for Obamacare, a sign of things to come?

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You don't get it. They aren't living in a big mansion - they live in my neighborhood. They live in your neighborhood. They take on massive amounts of debt to become doctors, and live an upper MIDDLE class lifestyle. These aren't the very wealthy, they are normal people who just happen to manage a larger amount of income and debt than the average family.

You're saying that no doctors are living in a big expensive neighborhood? Are you 100% sure about that?

What the current proposal will do is take a large portion of the revenue away without reducing any of the debt. The result will be less people who chose to become doctors, while the population continues to increase. This will increase wait times for surgeries, basic services, etc.

No one is going to choose not to become a doctor because they can only make 900k instead of a mil. That would be stupid. I would need more evidence that people become doctors solely because of the money and not because they want to be a doctor, or that its in the publics interest that we pay doctors what they're paid.

Both of these arguments are flimsy at best, definitely idealogical, and aren't good reasons why I should want to repeal Obamacare.

[Browning151]

You're saying that no doctors are living in a big expensive neighborhood? Are you 100% sure about that?

No one is going to choose not to become a doctor because they can only make 900k instead of a mil. That would be stupid. I would need more evidence that people become doctors solely because of the money and not because they want to be a doctor, or that its in the publics interest that we pay doctors what they're paid.

Both of these arguments are flimsy at best, definitely idealogical, and aren't good reasons why I should want to repeal Obamacare.

Either you are playing dumb or you are just fundamentally unable to grasp the concept that David is attempting to convey to you, my guess would be the former.

[David88vert]

You're saying that no doctors are living in a big expensive neighborhood? Are you 100% sure about that?

No one is going to choose not to become a doctor because they can only make 900k instead of a mil. That would be stupid. I would need more evidence that people become doctors solely because of the money and not because they want to be a doctor, or that its in the publics interest that we pay doctors what they're paid.

Both of these arguments are flimsy at best, definitely idealogical, and aren't good reasons why I should want to repeal Obamacare.

I am not saying that no doctors are living in big expensive neighborhoods. I am saying that the majority of them are living in normal homes, and have normal lives. These changes would impact normal general practitioners the hardest.

You seem to live with the fallacious belief that Obamacare will only reduce the payments to the doctors by 10%, and that everyone will be covered under the new ACA. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

Obama kept mentioning that 47 million did not have health insurance in the US. The CBO estimates that 30 million will STILL NOT be uninsured under Obamacare.
The CBO estimates that between 7 million to 20 million will lose their existing coverage due to Obamacare incentives.

In February, CBO reported that “in 2019 [5 years after Obamacare is implemented], an estimated 12 million people who would have had an offer of employment-based coverage under prior law will lose their offer under current law [aka ‘Obamacare’].” - FORBES

Here is someone else who makes the same points that I make : Look Out Below, The Obamacare Chaos Is Coming - Forbes