Union pulls support for Obamacare, a sign of things to come?

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You assume that a single payer system will work. You do not appear to recognize that many doctors will not be able to maintain their current standard of living if they have to continue to pay for expensive medical training, and take much lower payments for their services. You will see doctors who can no longer afford their lifestyles, which will mean that they may not be able to live in the same neighborhoods, or be able to do the same leisure activities, which impacts those businesses as well. It's a ripple effect.

If the costs to continue to rise in order become a doctor, and stay in practice, yet you lower their payment in return significantly, people will choose not to become doctors in the future, which will in turn, lengthen wait times for services that doctors provide.

If you studied economics, you should already know this.

So because I studied economics, I'm supposed to feel sorry for the doctor that has to downgrade to a 5 bedroom mansion from their current 10 bedroom one, and an Lexus in place of their Benz?

This changes everything. Give me a second while I count the tears I shed for them.

Done.

[Vteckidd]

So because I studied economics, I'm supposed to feel sorry for the doctor that has to downgrade to a 5 bedroom mansion from their current 10 bedroom one, and an Lexus in place of their Benz?

yes, because that Dr. probably had 100 times the educational costs you did, worked 80 hour a week rotations, performed complex operations that you cant even dream of, passed tests you are incapable of passing (because otherwise, you would be a doctor yourself), and he deserves to be a millionaire.

You guys act like someone goes to school for 4 years and comes out a Dr. making a million dollars a year.

Most Drs. take YEARS of schooling and YEARS of residency before any of their work pays off. Then, they have to open a business, and that business, like any other business, has to be profitable and sustain itself.

You only look at half the problem, never the whole problem. Their lifestyle is irrelevant, they earned it. If he wants to buy 10 ferraris, thats his right. If youre jealous, go be a doctor

[David88vert]

So because I studied economics, I'm supposed to feel sorry for the doctor that has to downgrade to a 5 bedroom mansion from their current 10 bedroom one, and an Lexus in place of their Benz?

This changes everything. Give me a second while I count the tears I shed for them.

Done.

You don't get it. They aren't living in a big mansion - they live in my neighborhood. They live in your neighborhood. They take on massive amounts of debt to become doctors, and live an upper MIDDLE class lifestyle. These aren't the very wealthy, they are normal people who just happen to manage a larger amount of income and debt than the average family.

What the current proposal will do is take a large portion of the revenue away without reducing any of the debt. The result will be less people who chose to become doctors, while the population continues to increase. This will increase wait times for surgeries, basic services, etc.

Of course, there is another route that these doctors could take - see more patients in the same amount of time, and maintain their income from the reduced amount that the government payment system gives for seeing a patient. If the doctor comes in, glances at the chart, and makes a quick prescription, he can see more patients. Who do you think loses out on quality care then? Or do you think that the care being given will still be the same, with less focus on each patient being given by the doctor?