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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    If a lot of doctors quit taking government payment, then they are limited to only taking patient payment and private insurance payments. Increase the pool of doctors doing this, decrease the number of businesses that offer private insurance, pushing more people to Obamacare, and guess what happens?
    They start bleeding money from all the people they're rejecting, and eventually start taking Medicare patients back again?

    This equates to a smaller pool of people that aren't using Obamacare. Its a spiral towards Obama's goal - a single payer system.
    ...and the problem is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    They start bleeding money from all the people they're rejecting, and eventually start taking Medicare patients back again?

    ...and the problem is?
    You assume that a single payer system will work. You do not appear to recognize that many doctors will not be able to maintain their current standard of living if they have to continue to pay for expensive medical training, and take much lower payments for their services. You will see doctors who can no longer afford their lifestyles, which will mean that they may not be able to live in the same neighborhoods, or be able to do the same leisure activities, which impacts those businesses as well. It's a ripple effect.

    If the costs to continue to rise in order become a doctor, and stay in practice, yet you lower their payment in return significantly, people will choose not to become doctors in the future, which will in turn, lengthen wait times for services that doctors provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Logic and rational thinking would tell you then that scrapping Obamacare and starting all over would also require countless hours and resources. And how do you conclude that it's broken beyond repair?
    Countless hours spent addressing actual issues and solving healthcare problems is more wisely spent than countless hours spent trying to "fix" a bureaucratic nightmare that further complicates an already complicated system. The logical ways to "fix" healthcare have been discussed over and over again, but they don't meet the end-game requirements of single payer.

    Many people can get insurance now that couldn't get it before.
    At what cost? Decreased quality of care, fewer available physicians, higher overall cost........

    The utopian idea of free and equal access to everything for everyone is great in theory, impossible in practice.

    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    This equates to a smaller pool of people that aren't using Obamacare. Its a spiral towards Obama's goal - a single payer system.
    ...and the problem is?
    ....and there we have it, you have no problem with the end-game of the charade that is Obamacare; a single payer system.

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