Union pulls support for Obamacare, a sign of things to come?

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It isnt going to be a small rise in rates. We are likely talking 100+% rise in rates over the next 5 years. I'm not sure you understand just how much it costs to treat cancer or other long term diseases. It could take 1000 new healthy customers to cover each cancer patient.

I do understand that but I don't see a good alternative. Trust me, I don't think Obamacare is great legislation and I like a lot of ideas championed by opponents such as buying across state lines. The issue of soaring health costs must be addressed with or without Obamacare and quite simply it wasn't happening. I am young, healthy, and have great health benefits through my job. I probably have more to lose than most from Obamacare. If people want to repeal and replace, I encourage that, but doing nothing is not an acceptable option to me.

Medicare/medicaid recipients are already having a hard time finding docs because those programs dont pay the docs enough to cover their costs. There is also a massive shortage of primary care docs all over the country. Both of these problems will be balloon with the inception of Obamacare. The result is a massive increase in patients and a decrease in available docs. This is where the lower quality care comes into play. The days of a doc knowing you and your habits will be gone. Rural area docs that barely get by now will likely leave to head into higher populated areas or retire.

I don't disagree. You asked for some good things about Obamacare. I never said there were no downsides.

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I do understand that but I don't see a good alternative. Trust me, I don't think Obamacare is great legislation and I like a lot of ideas championed by opponents such as buying across state lines. The issue of soaring health costs must be addressed with or without Obamacare and quite simply it wasn't happening. I am young, healthy, and have great health benefits through my job. I probably have more to lose than most from Obamacare. If people want to repeal and replace, I encourage that, but doing nothing is not an acceptable option to me.

Want to know how bad Obamacare is? We would have been better off without it. The damage it will do FAR outweights the benefits.

I don't disagree. You asked for some good things about Obamacare. I never said there were no downsides.

That is like saying there are positive aspects of cancer. Its a great diet, as long as you dont look at the negatives.

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Want to know how bad Obamacare is? We would have been better off without it. The damage it will do FAR outweights the benefits.

If that is true, I see no reason there wouldn't be ample support for repealing and replacing it with better legislation.

That is like saying there are positive aspects of cancer. Its a great diet, as long as you dont look at the negatives.

The question I was answering then was "what are the upsides of cancer?". That is what I answered, I never tried to argue that the positives outweighed the negatives. Also I was making the point that even bad legislation can have a positive effect in that now Republicans and anti-Obamacare people must take action to replace it. They can't sit on the sidelines and do nothing like they were for the last few decades.