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    David. Here's a good chance for you to change my opinion

    Why should I hate and want to repeal Obamacare?

    Please spare the ideological embellishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    David. Here's a good chance for you to change my opinion

    Why should I hate and want to repeal Obamacare?

    Please spare the ideological embellishments.
    Nothing anyone could say would get you to change your opinion. That's fine. Your opinion doesn't change the facts.

    The first union has discovered these facts on their own. Perhaps you will discover them as well, but I don't suspect that today will be that day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    David. Here's a good chance for you to change my opinion

    Why should I hate and want to repeal Obamacare?

    Please spare the ideological embellishments.
    Small tidbit from my own personal experience.....

    My job cut people to accommodate obamacare, they hire less people because of it, they cut hours because of it, they use more temps because of it. My cost of healthcare doubled. My disabled mother's doctor stopped seeing her because he no longer accepts medicaid because of obamacare, my grandmother's doctor did the same.

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    I have a doctors appointment tomorrow for a routine check-up. Everybody chip in $20 to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    I have a doctors appointment tomorrow for a routine check-up. Everybody chip in $20 to pay for it.
    Be happy you have a doctor that will see you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Be happy you have a doctor that will see you.
    My doctor sees me because I pay cash. My insurance went to shit the week after Obamacare was signed.

    It's pretty much catastrophic insurance at this point. Even though my cost increased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    My doctor sees me because I pay cash. My insurance went to shit the week after Obamacare was signed.

    It's pretty much catastrophic insurance at this point. Even though my cost increased.
    If democrats would be honest about their proposals in the beginning, we could avoid having to go through all of this mess.....

    Obama could have said "Affordable healthcare act.... its not affordable at all.... actually it more than doubles the cost of your current healthcare.... sure doctors are going to reject it.... but the ER will see you if you're dying.... "

    and then let people vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    David. Here's a good chance for you to change my opinion

    Why should I hate and want to repeal Obamacare?

    Please spare the ideological embellishments.
    The problem is you will think anything we say that is not in line with your opinion (which you are entitled to) is "ideological embellishments ".

    You should want it repealed because it doesnt do what they claim it will do. It will TAX YOU (specifically) if you dont have insurance, and youll most likely see a reduction in hours or employment, and an increase in costs. Premiums will rise , NOT FALL, your care will be restricted, not free choice, quality of care will decrease.

    Ive written books on here about why, and so far, I am right.

    Premiums- Rising
    Care- Shrinking
    Businesses cutting costs due to Mandatory Insurance expense- Happening

    Ive always said you will trade employment for your health insurance because you cant MAKE a private company do anything. They always have the option to just close up shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Why should I hate and want to repeal Obamacare?
    There's been discussion after discussion about why this thing is bad and how it's going to affect people in a negative way, and it seems almost daily there is another story of how it is going to affect people, or has already. The few positives I've seen are far outweighed by the negatives of massively increased costs and dr shortages. What good is healthcare for everyone if the cost is crippling and it's nearly impossible to see a dr? There's been NUMEROUS discussions on ways to improve the system to actually make it better, but they don't reach the end-game of a single payer system so they are discredited and tossed aside.

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