White is the new black.

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The anti-white movement is picking up steam. At what point should it warrant attention?

It warrants attention now if it causes significant harm to an individual. My issue isn't so much with you bringing it up when it occurs, it's more of the fact that you bring it up so much but never bring up cases when they are the victims of racism. It is the selectiveness with which your outrage occurs. It's completely one sided. Also, you seem to think the statistics allow you to treat all blacks the same rather than keeping your anger directed solely at the individuals who are the perpetrators.

So you acknowledge that what i am saying is 100% correct.... you simply do not think it's worthy of complaint. I've also said in the past that a portion of minorities seek "retribution" against whites, you seem to be agreeing to that also, correct?

Partially agreed. All racism is worthy of complaint, see my answer above. The portion that seek "retribution" I do not believe are a significant portion of the minority population and thus their views should not be projected on the rest of the group.

It's ok to negative stereotype whites, more or less because they deserve it?.... made even more ironic by the fact that this very comment is a racial stereotype.

You say "white people were the perpetrators of negative stereotyping for so long", i suppose those perpetrators made up 100% of the white community correct?

If you reread what I wrote, I specifically said it is not right. But it is understandable psychologically speaking. If someone hurts someone you care about, the desire for retribution is pretty normal. Even though it may be directed inappropriately, it is a form of psychological healing. No question, that doesn't make it right but it is inevitable.

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Did his comment perpetuate a stereotype? yes.

Nobody cares if you say something negative about white people. That is the point.

How does it perpetuate a stereotype when its a true statement? Lol. He said he killed all the white people in the movie. He did (for the most part.) All the white people he killed were slavers.

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How does it perpetuate a stereotype when its a true statement? Lol. He said he killed all the white people in the movie. He did (for the most part.) All the white people he killed were slavers.

You need a ladder? dont want you to pull something from all that reaching



We need to get those minorities off the streets of chicago.

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Just as there was a choice to be a nazi sympathizer, there was a choice to be a slave owner. Not all Germans were nazi sympathizers, and not all white people were slave owners.

And the definition of a stereotype is?????

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How about if this was said.... "I get to fly in a helicopter. We get shot down. I am one of the only white male soldiers surviving. How whack is that? But I finally get backup, get out my guns and get blasting away. 'It was fun killing all those blacks!!" - Black Hawk Down.

would that be racist?

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You need a ladder? dont want you to pull something from all that reaching.

How in the world is that reaching? This came from his own two lips! Lol

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How in the world is that reaching? This came from his own two lips! Lol

You trying to say it isnt a racial stereotype is reaching.

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How about if this was said.... "I get to fly in a helicopter. We get shot down. I am one of the only white male soldiers surviving. How whack is that? But I finally get backup, get out my guns and get blasting away. 'And I killed all those black people in the movie!!" - Black Hawk Down.

would that be racist?

Fixed it for ya.

You guys need to work on your analogs. Lol.

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You trying to say it isnt a racial stereotype is reaching.

No. I'm not.

If I said all white people are slave owners, that would be a stereotype.

If I said all the white people in a particular movie were slave owners, and they weren't actually slave owners, that would be a stereotype

If I said all the people in a particular movie were slave owners, and they were actually slave owners, its no longer a stereotype

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No. I'm not.

If I said all white people are slave owners, that would be a stereotype.

If I said all the white people in a particular movie were slave owners, and they weren't actually slave owners, that would be a stereotype

If I said all the people in a particular movie were slave owners, and they were actually slave owners, its no longer a stereotype

lol just stop

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Some of my complaints are exaggerated to purposefully be annoying

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!

Goodnight everyone.

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THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!

Goodnight everyone.

I dont hide who i am.......

You should join the club.

Some of my comments intentionally mock an issue for the purpose of showing how silly that issue is. I'm honest about this.

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.Theoretically speaking.... if i go about my day and am offended by 10 people, 5 white and 5 black, i would post "people are assholes"
if i go about my day and am offended by 10 people, 9 black and 1 white, i would post "black people are assholes".

This has got to be literally the most racist thing I've ever seen!

Sinfix, if I end up going for the Dr in Psych, would you let me interview you for a dissertation?

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This has got to be literally the most racist thing I've ever seen!

Sinfix, if I end up going for the Dr in Psych, would you let me interview you for a dissertation?

You cant be serious about that comment being racist.


Sure.

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You see stupid shit said in jest every day. People use the N word, and racial slurs all the time.

But you just gave us a glimpse into how you process this information. It might not even be a conscious decision for you...but yeah...

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You see stupid shit said in jest every day. People use the N word, and racial slurs all the time.

But you just gave us a glimpse into how you process this information. It might not even be a conscious decision for you...but yeah...

I was of a like mindset when i went through psychology and my black professor gave me nearly perfect marks. My final was on a racial topic.


You think it's ok to refer to slave owners as "white people" even though you clearly agree that 100% of white people were not slave owners.

In my theoretical scenario where 90% of black people are assholes, you say i would be racist for thinking "black people are assholes". Note the perimeters of my comment....... in my theoretical scenario, 90% of black people are assholes. I am saying that in a given circumstance if 90% of a group appear to me a certain way, i show little regard for offending the remaining 10%.

To you this is racism?

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Why are liberals afraid of black conservatives? | Washington Times Communities

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Why are liberals afraid of black conservatives? | Washington Times Communities

Wow. If he wants me to take him seriously as a black conservative, the absolute least he could do is run his paper through a fact-checker, then a spell-checker.

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My observance of color is just that.... observance. It's not a deciding factor on any decision i make.
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When people offend me, i speak about it. I'm not deciding for these offenses to be black people, they just are. It's not because theyre black, but i cant help but notice that they are.........

Overall I think this was one of the more honest statements I've seen you make so kudos for that. What I think you may not realize (or care about maybe) is that when you decide to explicitly include someone's race in a discussion, that is a choice that has implications. If you used race equally in context of both good and bad events, I would have no reason to doubt you were just including it only as a descriptor without any particular significance. It's harder to believe that though when you seem to consistently mention one particular race and in the context of something being done wrong.

Funny that you point out personal connections here. As I said in my previous post, in some arenas, your family name will open doors for you that would have been otherwise closed.

As far as stopping injustice, we have gone as far as we can legislatively. The old guard in business is slowly being replaced by people that dont carry the same biases. In this regard, I think the only way to improve further is to allow time pass without creating a new reason for a bigotry or bias.

Think of it this way. If a white guy feels he didnt get a job he really wanted because a black guy was needed to fill a quota, there is a chance he is going to be less likely to hire a black guy if/when he moves into a position to hire.

A well reasoned response. Saying we have gone as far as we should legislatively is obviously an opinion which not everyone agrees with but with such a difficult to quantify issue, I also can't say you are wrong.

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Overall I think this was one of the more honest statements I've seen you make so kudos for that. What I think you may not realize (or care about maybe) is that when you decide to explicitly include someone's race in a discussion, that is a choice that has implications. If you used race equally in context of both good and bad events, I would have no reason to doubt you were just including it only as a descriptor without any particular significance. It's harder to believe that though when you seem to consistently mention one particular race and in the context of something being done wrong.

If i had equal portions of good and bad events to discuss, we probably wouldnt be having this discussion to begin with. The foundation of the conversation we're currently having is me complaining about the disproportionate amount of bad events available to speak about. I offer my honest opinion and however it lands, it is what it is. I dont monitor my thoughts in a way to keep inventory on how many good and bad things i say about a particular topic. I speak my mind. If it turns out to be 99% negativity, so be it. It's not planned or predetermined.

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At this point, we have both stated our sides so I won't continue to belabor this topic any further. My final statement would be, if race is not an important factor in whatever statement you are making, I suggest omitting it in the future. Since it is not an important factor, it won't take away from your argument and it will prevent any confusion about what your real concern is. It's not about being PC, it's about communicating effectively.

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At this point, we have both stated our sides so I won't continue to belabor this topic any further. My final statement would be, if race is not an important factor in whatever statement you are making, I suggest omitting it in the future. Since it is not an important factor, it won't take away from your argument and it will prevent any confusion about what your real concern is. It's not about being PC, it's about communicating effectively.

I agree. I hope to one day live in a world where this is possible.

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NAACP Condones IRS Persecution Of Conservative, Jews | The Dana Show

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Sheila Jackson Lee says GOP complicating debt debate because Obama is black - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

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JAMES EDWARDS » Blog Archive Northwestern University man denied position on student government because he is a

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JAMES EDWARDS » Blog Archive Northwestern University man denied position on student government because he is a

From the article:
"Ian Coley, a student on the Associate Student Government Diversity and Inclusion Committee, later said white heterosexual males are not qualified to hold the position of associate vice president of diversity and inclusion."
“This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion,” said Coley, according to the Daily Northwestern.


Hmmm.... diversity and inclusion.....perhaps they don't know the definition of inclusion....

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From the article:
"Ian Coley, a student on the Associate Student Government Diversity and Inclusion Committee, later said white heterosexual males are not qualified to hold the position of associate vice president of diversity and inclusion."
“This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion,” said Coley, according to the Daily Northwestern.


Hmmm.... diversity and inclusion.....perhaps they don't know the definition of inclusion....

There's white people and then there's everyone else. White racism is ok....

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From the article:
"Ian Coley, a student on the Associate Student Government Diversity and Inclusion Committee, later said white heterosexual males are not qualified to hold the position of associate vice president of diversity and inclusion."
“This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion,” said Coley, according to the Daily Northwestern.


Hmmm.... diversity and inclusion.....perhaps they don't know the definition of inclusion....

That seems to be the case with a lot of groups that preach diversity, acceptance etc. etc.