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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Should we attempt to legislate for all possible criminal activity? Just ban any tool that might be used for the commission of a crime? Should we just assume that all people are potential criminals, and subject everyone to background checks for all activities, tools, services, and products, that might be used in criminal behavior? Where should the line be drawn, and who should be the ones drawing that legal line? Since baseball bats have been shown to be used repeatedly for murder, should we just ban aluminum bats, and leave the older style wooden ones alone? Perhaps it's the sport of baseball itself that causes baseball bat violence? Should we just proactively ban the sport of baseball in the efforts to stop these senseless killings? Didn't Obama say, "If we can save but one life, we have to try?"
    Not wasting time on this straw man.

    As I have shown before, rifles are used rarely for murder. Assault style rifles are a subset of rifles,, which means less than 17 murders happen per year in GA since before you were old enough to legally own a firearm. Even if assault style weapons were fully banned, that does not begin to be proactive, as it is unlikely that the murders would have just given up on killing their victims - they would have just used a different weapon.

    If you want proactive legislation, you should focus on the source of the problem, not the tools used. Wouldn't it be better to focus efforts on people, and their mental state, rather than inanimate tools?
    Lets get specific. What are you referring to specifically that you have an issue with? There is the entire idea of increased gun legislation, lets not group it all together, lest it confuses everyone.

    The President and Congress did not address any gun control legislation until Newtown. They were very open about using it to promote their political agenda.
    Pretty sure this happened before Newtown. I'm not a professional calendar maker, so don't quote me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Not wasting time on this straw man.

    Lets get specific. What are you referring to specifically that you have an issue with? There is the entire idea of increased gun legislation, lets not group it all together, lest it confuses everyone.

    Pretty sure this happened before Newtown. I'm not a professional calendar maker, so don't quote me.

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    Straw man? I'm just trying to get you to use some critical thinking. There's nothing wrong with that, right?
    Why do you run away from such as simple discussion?

    Who said that I have an issue with any of the possible legislation? Can you show me where I said that I have a specific issue with the current proposal?

    Your link supports my statement that no gun control legislation was addressed until after Newtown. Not sure why you wanted to place that link here, but thanks. As per your calendar comment, January 24, 2013 comes after 2012.
    "On January 24, Senator Feinstein introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices." - Assault Weapons - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein
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