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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Regarding the limitation of or ability to exchange them between law abiding citizens, no. I see no reason for the federal government to have an inventory of my gun collection or how and where i acquired them. When i commit a crime, punish me. A felon purchasing a gun is against the law, when a felon victimizes me by purchasing one of my guns, punish him.
    I'm really asking about all gun laws, not just the new ones being proposed. What laws should we have regarding gun ownership if any? Are the laws we have now perfect? Would you remove, add, or modify some? It would help to understand where you are coming from if I knew where you thought we should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    I'm really asking about all gun laws, not just the new ones being proposed. What laws should we have regarding gun ownership if any? Are the laws we have now perfect? Would you remove, add, or modify some? It would help to understand where you are coming from if I knew where you thought we should be.
    I support laws regarding the safe use of guns. Nothing else...... no limitations to law abiding citizens.

    A felon owning a gun isnt safe, we already have laws against it, enforce them. You dont ticket someone for buying a corvette, you ticket them if they speed. Quit assuming that because people can sell a gun to a criminal, that they are, and punish people when they do. "innocent until proven guilty"..... that's the foundation of our legal system.... abide by it.... even when it's difficult. Yes, it's difficult to control guns..... but our way of life is more important than streamlining the system for our government. The constitution didnt guarantee your safety and it didnt guarantee that police officers would have an easy job. We're free people..... unfortunately with freedom comes the freedom to do evil things, when people do evil things.... punish them.

    I do not want universal background checks or any "inventory-like" system regarding guns.... i hope the government assumes that there's 35 AR15s in everyone's basement..... i dont want them to know...... The government should fear it's people. Fear is healthy in some relationships. At no point in the history of humanity did the consolidation of power work out in favor of those giving up power.

    Our government has a problem with symbolism over substance. These proposed new laws will have zero effect on any of the recent tragedies. Assault rifles are being used as a martyr. The dishonesty on display by these politicians gives even more reason to speculate about their intentions.

    The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with duck hunting. It had nothing to do with safety..... Freedom is dangerous, they said that from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I support laws regarding the safe use of guns. Nothing else...... no limitations to law abiding citizens.

    A felon owning a gun isnt safe, we already have laws against it, enforce them. You dont ticket someone for buying a corvette, you ticket them if they speed....
    Well you started to answer my question and then went off on a rant. Can you be more specific about what laws support the safe use of guns (a very vague notion) in addition to felons not being allowed to own them? I'm not trying to trick you or anything. I just want a comprehensive list of laws you think are appropriate, not a list of laws that are NOT appropriate.

    FYI, you spelled Barack wrong in your sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Well you started to answer my question and then went off on a rant. Can you be more specific about what laws support the safe use of guns (a very vague notion) in addition to felons not being allowed to own them? I'm not trying to trick you or anything. I just want a comprehensive list of laws you think are appropriate, not a list of laws that are NOT appropriate.

    FYI, you spelled Barack wrong in your sig.
    My list of gun laws is very short.

    Dont use them for criminal activity. Dont allow criminals to have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    My list of gun laws is very short.

    Dont use them for criminal activity. Dont allow criminals to have them.
    Those aren't laws, those are vague notions. Crimes are crimes whether you use a gun or not. Are you saying their should be a law that provides harsher punishment for a crime when it is commited with a gun rather than another weapon?

    Don't allow criminals to have them? Is that limited to felons or to any record whatsoever? Do you support any laws for enforcement of that (e.g., background checks) or just to punish them after the fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Those aren't laws, those are vague notions. Crimes are crimes whether you use a gun or not. Are you saying their should be a law that provides harsher punishment for a crime when it is commited with a gun rather than another weapon?

    Don't allow criminals to have them? Is that limited to felons or to any record whatsoever? Do you support any laws for enforcement of that (e.g., background checks) or just to punish them after the fact?
    Stricter punishments for existing crimes when a gun is used.

    Felons. Punish them after the fact. No i do not support universal background checks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Stricter punishments for existing crimes when a gun is used.

    Felons. Punish them after the fact. No i do not support universal background checks.
    Ok so those are the only two gun related laws you would support. Am I correct in then concluding that you do not want any restriction on what weapons a normal citizen can have all the way up to rocket launchers, tanks, nukes, etc? What about age restrictions, should a child be allowed to own any such weapon as well? You say you don't support universal background checks but are there any background checks you do support? Sorry for all the questions I'm just trying to figure out exactly how far you want to go on liberalizing guns.

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