The current state of healthcare in the US is a joke.

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I still dont have a clue how the govt getting money from marijuana sales is going to lower health care costs. If you are talking about how the govt is going to pay for it, thats a completely different discussion. You said legalized and regulated marijuana would actually lower costs.

Allocate the tax revenue from newly legalized drugs, and existing legal drugs to healthcare. I don't know why I have to explain this to you, you're smart enough.

Oh and I am still laughing at the fact that you think the govt would have lower overhead than a private sector company. The govt already has a model for what would happen with a single payer. It is called medicare/medicaid. In 2011, Kaiser Permanente collected 47.9B in total revenue. Medicare paid about that much just in fraud.

You will be the only one laughing. All costs being exactly the same, the government doesn't work for shareholders, and the government doesn't have to advertise. I'm sure you can do simple subtraction from here.

Why would I NOT think that medicare's fraud totals wont go up by 10x when 10x the people are added to the scheme? It would probably go up by more than 10x because it would be even easier to commit the fraud because the govt wont be able to hire enough investigators to keep up.

1. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_fraud

The total cost of healthcare fraud in the US. This includes everyone on any healthcare system right now. You may see a slight bump, but not much.

2. Why wouldn't you be able to hire investigators? You have freed up plenty of workers from current private healthcare administration who already know the system.

[BanginJimmy]

Allocate the tax revenue from newly legalized drugs, and existing legal drugs to healthcare. I don't know why I have to explain this to you, you're smart enough.

Thats just more taxes. A knee repalcement will still cost the same as it did with illegal weed.

You will be the only one laughing. All costs being exactly the same, the government doesn't work for shareholders, and the government doesn't have to advertise. I'm sure you can do simple subtraction from here.

They have a far larger and more cumbersome bureaucracy though.

1. Health care fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The total cost of healthcare fraud in the US. This includes everyone on any healthcare system right now. You may see a slight bump, but not much.

Your link has issues. I would have to find the info again, but I found an article a few years ago while I was in econ class arguing against a single payer that covered this. It estimated medicare fraud 3-5x higher per capita than private sector insurers.

2. Why wouldn't you be able to hire investigators? You have freed up plenty of workers from current private healthcare administration who already know the system.

For the same reason they dont do it now. I have no clue what that reason is, but there is very little accountability with medicare spending.

HHS could hire 50k new investigators whose only job is to find and prosecute medicare fraud, pay them 150k a year. If they stopped just 30% of fraud, medicare would be saving money.

[David88vert]

You will be the only one laughing. All costs being exactly the same, the government doesn't work for shareholders, and the government doesn't have to advertise. I'm sure you can do simple subtraction from here.

Even the Obamacare bill included a massive amount of pork barrel spending. Government is not as efficient as the private sector; however, it usually takes government to tackle massive projects such as national infrastructure, and that places a national healthcare plan as a discussion topic at minimum.

We, the people, are the shareholders. I agree that the government is not working for its shareholders - but it should be.

The government constantly advertises. Turn on the TV, and hear Obama's commercials promoting his agendas.