The current state of healthcare in the US is a joke.

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From BCBS Website itself

"We believe that premiums will increase as a result of provisions in the reform legislation that will guarantee richer levels of benefits than most consumers who obtain their own insurance purchase today. Insufficient discounts for the young and healthy will encourage many of them to forgo coverage. New fees and taxes mandated by the new law will also likely increase the cost of premiums as they are phased in."

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"We believe"?

Single payer is not sustainable, cannot be paid for as healthcare costs 4 times the defense budget alone. Single payer STILL needs tax revenue to be paid for.

Sure it is. You choose the government option, you get a tax increase. Cut out the middle man. You're gonna pay it one way or the other.

Competition. "Free markets." Options.

Pretty conservative option, IMO.

But most capitalists don't like competition, the very foundation of capitalism. Especially when they know they would lose big time. Lol.

I think someone said "People love capitalism until they're on the losing side of the competition, then it becomes socialism." Or something to that effect.

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"We believe"?

Yes, i believe the business knows its cost aspects better than us. Im just saying your own insurance company is saying they see rates increasing, not decreasing, and they tell you why.

Sure it is. You choose the government option, you get a tax increase. Cut out the middle man. You're gonna pay it one way or the other.

Competition. "Free markets." Options.

Pretty conservative option, IMO.

But most capitalists don't like competition, the very foundation of capitalism. Especially when they know they would lose big time. Lol.

I think someone said "People love capitalism until they're on the losing side of the competition, then it becomes socialism." Or something to that effect.

Government doesnt have to operate on profit. they cannot offer a service and be competitive with normal market forces.

Single Payer will not work, because someone has to pay for the coverage. Its not just FREE, unless youre assuming doctors hospitals, equipment all of the sudden become FREE and Surgeons are ok making 10$/hr? Or substantially less money then they are really worth.

Single payer looks good on paper, but what happens when you run out of tax increases to pay for it? Everyone suffers, not just the 8% without insurance.

Again, you have not shown any factual numbers to back up your claims. How do you pay for 4 Trillion dollars in healthcare costs via single payer?

US govt took in 2.3 TRILLION last year alone. Theres no way to raise the extra 1.7 trillion without massive tax increases, which would bring down single payer anyway (people would flee the country)