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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    That's a simple answer, but a valid one. The same type of answer could be put towards any item, but would you still have the same answer if "air conditioner" or "organic vegetables" was substituted for "firearm"? Just food for thought - nothing more, and not "attacking" your statement or anything like that. I'm mostly agreeing with you on this one, that the tax can be avoided if you wish to.
    I don't give a shit whether or not I'm taxed on an air conditioner or organic vegetables or a gun. A $20 tax isn't gonna stop me from purchasing $500 firearm. If I didnt want to pay the tax on any of those, I wouldn't buy them

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I don't give a shit whether or not I'm taxed on an air conditioner or organic vegetables or a gun. A $20 tax isn't gonna stop me from purchasing $500 firearm. If I didnt want to pay the tax on any of those, I wouldn't buy them
    You're the perfect democrat..... you've already accepted that you're nothing more than tax cattle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You're the perfect democrat..... you've already accepted that you're nothing more than tax cattle.
    What in the world are you talking about? Do you realize how ignorant you sound? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I don't give a shit whether or not I'm taxed on an air conditioner or organic vegetables or a gun. A $20 tax isn't gonna stop me from purchasing $500 firearm. If I didnt want to pay the tax on any of those, I wouldn't buy them
    Fair enough. What if the "air conditioner" cost $500, and the tax was raised to be 1:1 cost? So that $500 air conditioner started to cost $1000, and every other item deemed a "luxury/non-necessity" by the government was taxed at 1:1? If the A/C unit cost $500, but tax was 4:1, so the total was then $2500, would that still be ok? Would that be ok, or is there a limit to being reasonable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Fair enough. What if the "air conditioner" cost $500, and the tax was raised to be 1:1 cost? So that $500 air conditioner started to cost $1000, and every other item deemed a "luxury/non-necessity" by the government was taxed at 1:1? If the A/C unit cost $500, but tax was 4:1, so the total was then $2500, would that still be ok? Would that be ok, or is there a limit to being reasonable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Fair enough. What if the "air conditioner" cost $500, and the tax was raised to be 1:1 cost? So that $500 air conditioner started to cost $1000, and every other item deemed a "luxury/non-necessity" by the government was taxed at 1:1? If the A/C unit cost $500, but tax was 4:1, so the total was then $2500, would that still be ok? Would that be ok, or is there a limit to being reasonable?
    A 100-400% tax on an air conditioner is pretty unreasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    A 100-400% tax on an air conditioner is pretty unreasonable.
    air conditioning is destroying our planet. If we can save one tree then we have to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    A 100-400% tax on an air conditioner is pretty unreasonable.
    Ok, just was asking.
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    "nothing you could have done"

    This man would disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
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    "nothing you could have done"

    This man would disagree.
    What would this man disagree about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    What would this man disagree about?
    The common statement that having a gun wont protect you from a criminal.

    I feel like i spelled this out...

    "nothing you could have done"..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    The common statement that having a gun wont protect you from a criminal.

    I feel like i spelled this out...

    "nothing you could have done"..........
    Is it at all possible for you to judge each situation on its own merits? This isn't a common statement at all. Sometimes a gun won't help you, sometimes it will. That doesn't mean the woman from your last thread should have had a gun, that doesn't mean the man from this article should not have had a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Is it at all possible for you to judge each situation on its own merits? This isn't a common statement at all. Sometimes a gun won't help you, sometimes it will. That doesn't mean the woman from your last thread should have had a gun, that doesn't mean the man from this article should not have had a gun.
    Fair enough, but what i'm "fight for" is the right to decide for yourself and not let politicians make the decision for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Fair enough, but what i'm "fight for" is the right to decide for yourself and not let politicians make the decision for you.
    Keep fighting the good fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Keep fighting the good fight
    You should join me. Your rights are worth fighting for. It's easier to defend them than it will be to get them back.

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    Hey BU, you said that one of the great things about this country was that i could insult the most powerful people on the planet and nothing happen...........

    no so fast...................

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

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    Can't see vids here, I'll have to check it out later. I stand by my statement from before though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I agree with Henry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I agree with Henry.
    You would...

    I agree with Thomas. If you dont think you should defend your rights.... what else is worth defending???

    "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Hey BU, you said that one of the great things about this country was that i could insult the most powerful people on the planet and nothing happen...........

    no so fast...................

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
    Ok so I watched the video and yes that proposed legislation is a terrible idea but I'm not worried that it will actually pass. The wording as summarized in the video is obviously ridiculously broad. It's funny that you put that quote at the bottom though since applying it to the video would mean that everyone rules over everyone if such legislation became law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Ok so I watched the video and yes that proposed legislation is a terrible idea but I'm not worried that it will actually pass. The wording as summarized in the video is obviously ridiculously broad. It's funny that you put that quote at the bottom though since applying it to the video would mean that everyone rules over everyone if such legislation became law.
    You have too much faith in government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    While I have had a run-ins like this once or twice, I've also had situations where the officer had every right to cart me off to jail and didn't.



    I don't wanna say you have to take the good with the bad... But you kinda do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    While I have had a run-ins like this once or twice, I've also had situations where the officer had every right to cart me off to jail and didn't.



    I don't wanna say you have to take the good with the bad... But you kinda do.
    I dont plan on cooperating with any government employees who violate my rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I dont plan on cooperating with any government employees who violate my rights.
    Exactly which rights were violated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Exactly which rights were violated?

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    This, in addition to just being a rude fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    This, in addition to just being a rude fuck.
    Nope. The kid wouldn't comply with basic requests for info, creating a reasonable suspicion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Nope. The kid wouldn't comply with basic requests for info, creating a reasonable suspicion.

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    It creates suspicion to refuse answering questions unwarranted by suspicion?

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    Last edited by Sinfix_15; 07-08-2013 at 09:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Nope. The kid wouldn't comply with basic requests for info, creating a reasonable suspicion.

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    In the courts eyes, not answering questions doesn't create reasonable suspicion of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You have too much faith in government.
    It's not about faith, it's about practicality. Stupid legislation is proposed every day in some state legislature. I simply don't have enough mental energy or the inclination to get worked up about every proposed bill anywhere in the country that I disagree with. If you think this bill is worth your time and energy, that's your call. It's not worth mine.

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    And the point is what exactly? The cops acted in a way that may have violated someone's rights, and now the cops are getting sued for it. That is how the system is set up to work.

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    "Only the police should have guns" LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    And the point is what exactly? The cops acted in a way that may have violated someone's rights, and now the cops are getting sued for it. That is how the system is set up to work.
    Just pointing out how aggressive the cops are at ignoring your constitutional rights. Mostly because they feel people dont have enough mental energy or the inclination to worked up about it every time they do.

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