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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    " If we're ever going to install socialism, we must first disarm anyone who would oppose "


    These current scandals should be painfully obvious evidence that our government has no issues with "imposing its will" on american citizens. Disarming them makes that goal easier. This had been said many times throughout history...... every tyrant shared the notion that citizens are easier to control when disarmed. I honestly do not understand how you do not understand this concept? What do you think our founders meant when they said "the government should fear its people".... do you think they meant "fear that you're going to send a letter to your congressmen"
    Install socialism. This is about the most serious answer I'll probably get so ill roll with it. Based on your answer (and I would love to hear serious answers for these as well)....

    1. What is socialism? Why is it a bad thing? Why is capitalism a good thing?

    2. A core change in the operation of the government would obviously require the cooperation of all 3 branches of government. If this level of cooperation is achieved for such an endeavor, what makes you think they need to disarm you to get any further?

    3. This level of cooperation to change the fundamentals of government from how it operates now would literally take decades. What makes you think Obama is capable of pulling something like that off in his remaining 3 years, what benefit would he receive from putting such a process in motion? He'd in all likelyhood be dead before it happened.

    4. What is the benefit of having unlimited control of American citizens? If its only to "install socialism", and if socialism is such a beneficial endeavor for them, why wait until 2008?

    Put your thinking cap on for 20 minutes and humor me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Install socialism. This is about the most serious answer I'll probably get so ill roll with it. Based on your answer (and I would love to hear serious answers for these as well)....

    1. What is socialism? Why is it a bad thing? Why is capitalism a good thing?

    2. A core change in the operation of the government would obviously require the cooperation of all 3 branches of government. If this level of cooperation is achieved for such an endeavor, what makes you think they need to disarm you to get any further?

    3. This level of cooperation to change the fundamentals of government from how it operates now would literally take decades. What makes you think Obama is capable of pulling something like that off in his remaining 3 years, what benefit would he receive from putting such a process in motion? He'd in all likelyhood be dead before it happened.

    4. What is the benefit of having unlimited control of American citizens? If its only to "install socialism", and if socialism is such a beneficial endeavor for them, why wait until 2008?

    Put your thinking cap on for 20 minutes and humor me.
    Here you go again on your quest to feel superior.

    It doesnt matter what socialism is, whether its good or bad..... it simply doesnt matter............. i know you support socialism. I know that's you're thing..... i honestly done care to continue having this debate with you. Nothing you could ever say would make me agree with this "the world is your family" socialism mentality.

    The point is, the government and many governments in the past know that it's more difficult to impose your will on armed citizens. Whether the government wanted to install socialism or make me eat my vegetables..... me being armed puts more significance on "no". It's a pretty simple idea really..... if someone breaks in my house and i walk into the living room and say "no, you cant have my TV", it works differently with and without a gun.

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