Defend your right to own a car.

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While science may impact the abortion debate, it will never solve it. It is primarily a value judgement. Science can't tell you when an embryo or fetus deserves the same rights as a fully conscious human. Some people talk about the sanctity of life but that is so nebulous a term as to be nearly meaningless. Many people who use such arguments don't believe in the sanctity of life for convicted murderers (despite the number of historical false convictions) or for enemy combatants on a battlefield (despite their political beliefs or whether they hold a gun or not). These debates are usually devoid of much logic.

Combatants are choosing their own fate and yes we do value the sanctity of life when it comes to enemy combatants, that's why we allow surrender. Same applies to convicted murderers, if the law is "commit X crime and you get the death penalty" you are deciding the death penalty for yourself when you commit X crime.

So the criminal can chose not to commit a crime, combatants decide their own fate....... what voice or option does the unborn child have?



outside of that i agree. This is 100% a value judgment / social issue.

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Same applies to convicted murderers, if the law is "commit X crime and you get the death penalty" you are deciding the death penalty for yourself when you commit X crime.

Except that it is a known fact that some convicted criminals were actually not guilty of any crime and later exonerated. Honestly I probably shouldn't have made those comparisons because people like to focus on the misalignment of comparisons and ignore the overall point which in this case is that we don't all agree life is an absolute right and we can't even agree when life begins anyways.

what voice or option does the unborn child have?

Your question assumes the unborn child has the capacity to have an opinion either way which clearly fetuses don't.

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Your question assumes the unborn child has the capacity to have an opinion either way which clearly fetuses don't.

Next time i see a 1 year old i'm gonna ask them if they want to live or die.

Call me crazy.... but the answer i'm expecting is "garggglagjasggjggggg aggguugugu"