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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Most abortions are simply die to the baby not being wanted by the mother in "woman's choice" situations - we aren't talking about medical emergencies here, we are talking about woman's choice.
    False. Very false.

    http://www.m.webmd.com/women/tc/abor...hoose-abortion

    Women's choice isn't a situation. It simply means the choice of woman, and in this discussion, the choice is between having an abortion or not having an abortion. There is no alternate definition for this. Period.

    http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...hoice?q=Choice

    So, is killing via abortion different than killing via a firearm? Is one killing, and the other isn't?
    Since you have clearly stated how you are for letting a woman use her own personal moral compass to determine if she wants to kill a baby via abortion, why are you against letting a man/woman use their own moral compass to determine if he/she wants to kill someone with an assault rifle?

    The discussion is not about abortion per say, but rather, should someones's own personal morality determine whether other's should live or die; and, can you argue that in one case it's fine, but in other cases, it is not allowable.
    I take it you're incapable of making your argument without using emotional embellishments and appeal to emotion fallacies? I'm not arguing whether someone should live or die in one case and not another, because that's not what abortion is at all.

    Lets see if you can make your case without using the words "killing", "murder", "baby", and "firearm", as these are all emotionally charged words, or emotional embellishments, and have nothing to do with an abortion procedure. I would hope that you'd agree that you can't kill a baby if its A) Not alive, and B) not a baby. So are you able to judge the subject dispassionately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    False. Very false.

    Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

    Women's choice isn't a situation. It simply means the choice of woman, and in this discussion, the choice is between having an abortion or not having an abortion. There is no alternate definition for this. Period.

    Definition of choice in Oxford Dictionaries (US English) (US)

    I take it you're incapable of making your argument without using emotional embellishments and appeal to emotion fallacies? I'm not arguing whether someone should live or die in one case and not another, because that's not what abortion is at all.

    Lets see if you can make your case without using the words "killing", "murder", "baby", and "firearm", as these are all emotionally charged words, or emotional embellishments, and have nothing to do with an abortion procedure. I would hope that you'd agree that you can't kill a baby if its A) Not alive, and B) not a baby. So are you able to judge the subject dispassionately?

    The hypocrisy is staggering.

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    Blank, what is a partial birth abortion? and in your opinion, at what point is a fetus alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    False. Very false.

    Abortion-Reasons Women Choose Abortion

    Women's choice isn't a situation. It simply means the choice of woman, and in this discussion, the choice is between having an abortion or not having an abortion. There is no alternate definition for this. Period.

    Definition of choice in Oxford Dictionaries (US English) (US)

    I take it you're incapable of making your argument without using emotional embellishments and appeal to emotion fallacies? I'm not arguing whether someone should live or die in one case and not another, because that's not what abortion is at all.

    Lets see if you can make your case without using the words "killing", "murder", "baby", and "firearm", as these are all emotionally charged words, or emotional embellishments, and have nothing to do with an abortion procedure. I would hope that you'd agree that you can't kill a baby if its A) Not alive, and B) not a baby. So are you able to judge the subject dispassionately?
    Ok, so all that you just established is that you are not capable of reading comprehension and critical thinking. I shouldn't have expected that much from you.

    Let me ask you two simple questions that you probably still can't understand.

    Should a woman be allowed to choose to kill her baby just because she decides that she does not want it? (not natural, not "health of mother", not already dead fetus)
    Should it make a difference if the baby is killed at 24 weeks, or 24 minutes after delivery?

    Oh, and as for reasons of a late termination:
    71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
    48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
    33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
    24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
    8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
    8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
    6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
    6% Woman didn't know timing is important
    5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
    2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
    11% Other
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post

    Should a woman be allowed to choose to kill her baby just because she decides that she does not want it? (not natural, not "health of mother", not already dead fetus)
    Should it make a difference if the baby is killed at 24 weeks, or 24 minutes after delivery?
    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Yes. Absolutely.
    So why have you spent all morning dancing around the fact that most abortions are simply the choice to not want a baby????????????

    You believe that if a woman doesnt want to have a baby, she can go to the doctor and have the doctor terminate the baby.

    Own what you believe in and quit trying to put a political spin on it.



    The real question is, at what point does a fetus become a living child. So far your definition is "when able to survive outside the womb"....

    So can i get an abortion in 8 1/2 months as long as the "fetus" is still inside? if not, why not?

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