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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    To some people, unknowingly liberals themselves, they think liberalism is some kind of pejorative, and something to be ashamed of.
    Most 'progressives' think it is an insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    To some people, unknowingly liberals themselves, they think liberalism is some kind of pejorative, and something to be ashamed of.
    Edit, i am going to force myself not to argue with Blank for at least a two weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    I'm a "liberal" according to Sinfix and I love everything about my life. lol
    If you loved the environment as much as your life, you wouldn't have a rotary race car. How big of a carbon footprint does that thing have? Fireballs of unspent gas billowing into the air, racing tires, brake pads, oil... The list is endless.






















































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    I just read another article about that, pretty ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    If you loved the environment as much as your life, you wouldn't have a rotary race car. How big of a carbon footprint does that thing have? Fireballs of unspent gas billowing into the air, racing tires, brake pads, oil... The list is endless.





















































    You just made me love it that much more. lolol

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    Speaking of cars...... Obama's limo broke down today.....

    in honor of this occasion, lets sing some Obama-nized versions of our favorite songs and imagine Obama himself perhaps singing them from the backseat of his broken down limo to pass the time.


    So here's a whistle...........................
    I know it's crazzzzzzyyyyy..........................
    but if someone rapes you..............
    blow it mayyyybbbbbbbeeeeeeee..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Speaking of cars...... Obama's limo broke down today.....

    in honor of this occasion, lets sing some Obama-nized versions of our favorite songs and imagine Obama himself perhaps singing them from the backseat of his broken down limo to pass the time.


    So here's a whistle...........................
    I know it's crazy..........................
    but if someone rapes you..............
    blow it mayyyybbbbbbbeeeeeeee..............
    Not gonna lie, that was actually really stupid.

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    The limo broke down because somebody put gas in it instead of diesel... But no worries, he had a spare waiting that was flown in from Jordan.





    On a side note: I have no problem with him having a spare limo flown around. The President should have the best protection we can buy him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    Not gonna lie, that was actually really stupid.
    You more of a Bieber fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    On a side note: I have no problem with him having a spare limo flown around. The President should have the best protection we can buy him.
    You're right, his life and family is more important than that of a common man like you and i. He shouldnt be forced to piss or shit himself in the event he was attacked like us. I'm sure it says it somewhere in the bible that the life of a politician is more valuable than our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You more of a Bieber fan?
    I like to picture Obama listening to this while personally flying a drone from his Blackberry, whilst waiting in the limo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You're right, his life and family is more important than that of a common man like you and i. He shouldnt be forced to piss or shit himself in the event he was attacked like us. I'm sure it says it somewhere in the bible that the life of a politician is more valuable than our lives.
    "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."


    Would you rather have him as our President or a Martyr for real "Change"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."
    That quote, in context is more of a summary of the relationship between Christianity and secular authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    That quote, in context is more of a summary of the relationship between Christianity and secular authority.
    Yea, it was the first thing that popped to mind.


    Pretty sure "Obama's life is no more valuable than a common man's" isn't in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You're right, his life and family is more important than that of a common man like you and i. He shouldnt be forced to piss or shit himself in the event he was attacked like us. I'm sure it says it somewhere in the bible that the life of a politician is more valuable than our lives.
    You have said some really stupid things in your day, but this is really pushing it, even for you.


    I'm going to humor you though. What is stopping you from buying a vehicle that affords you the same level of protection the Beast affords a sitting president.

    Armored Bulletproof Passenger Vehicles - Cars Sedans Trucks and SUVs

    Those guys will help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    You have said some really stupid things in your day, but this is really pushing it, even for you.


    I'm going to humor you though. What is stopping you from buying a vehicle that affords you the same level of protection the Beast affords a sitting president.

    Armored Bulletproof Passenger Vehicles - Cars Sedans Trucks and SUVs

    Those guys will help you out.
    If you think its stupid then you misunderstand the point i'm trying to make.

    We're the most powerful nation in the world, we can afford to defend our president with any means required. I have no problem with that.

    My problem is with civilians being expected to live by a different rule. If i could afford an armored vehicle..... i might have one. I cant and im ok with that. However..... i can afford an ar15, shotgun, handgun ect...... and do not like a politician having the nerve to say someone should piss themselves or shit their pants to prevent an attack. Everyone should be offended by that. I just want politicians to actually believe in what theyre asking me to believe in. If politicians think you dont need guns to defend yourself...... arm your security guards with pepper spray.. or just shit your pants, like you advise women to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You're right, his life and family is more important than that of a common man like you and i. He shouldnt be forced to piss or shit himself in the event he was attacked like us. I'm sure it says it somewhere in the bible that the life of a politician is more valuable than our lives.
    While I don't think his life is more important than mine, I think there's more reasons why he shouldn't die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    If you think its stupid then you misunderstand the point i'm trying to make.

    We're the most powerful nation in the world, we can afford to defend our president with any means required. I have no problem with that.

    My problem is with civilians being expected to live by a different rule. If i could afford an armored vehicle..... i might have one. I cant and im ok with that. However..... i can afford an ar15, shotgun, handgun ect...... and do not like a politician having the nerve to say someone should piss themselves or shit their pants to prevent an attack. Everyone should be offended by that. I just want politicians to actually believe in what theyre asking me to believe in. If politicians think you dont need guns to defend yourself...... arm your security guards with pepper spray.. or just shit your pants, like you advise women to do.
    The fact that you dont see a major difference between riding in a limo and owning a shotgun shows you dont have the ability to grasp even the most simple concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    The fact that you dont see a major difference between riding in a limo and owning a shotgun shows you dont have the ability to grasp even the most simple concepts.
    it has absolutely nothing to do with limos or shotguns....

    it's people with unlimited ability and resources to protect themselves feeling justified in handicapping other people's ability to protect themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    it has absolutely nothing to do with limos or shotguns....

    it's people with unlimited ability and resources to protect themselves feeling justified in handicapping other people's ability to protect themselves.
    So you think the leader of a country should not have security or anything of that sort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    So you think the leader of a country should not have security or anything of that sort?
    How are you seriously coming to this conclusion based on anything ive said?

    I do not like the hypocrisy of someone with unlimited resources of defense suggesting that my ability to defend myself should be handicapped. That does not mean that i think the president should not have defense. However..... if they feel guns are not needed (like they tell us) then they should abide by that same standard and get rid of theirs. If they think that's absolutely ridiculous (which it is) then they should quit attempting to strip people of their rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    it has absolutely nothing to do with limos or shotguns....

    it's people with unlimited ability and resources to protect themselves feeling justified in handicapping other people's ability to protect themselves.
    They have unlimited access to airplanes also, do you think you have a right to that also?


    Even if Feinstein's AWB was passed and signed into law tomorrow, you would still have basicly unlimited access any weapon you want as long as your have the resources to buy them. Hell, if I had the cash right now I would be buying myself a fully functional M2 machine gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    They have unlimited access to airplanes also, do you think you have a right to that also?


    Even if Feinstein's AWB was passed and signed into law tomorrow, you would still have basicly unlimited access any weapon you want as long as your have the resources to buy them. Hell, if I had the cash right now I would be buying myself a fully functional M2 machine gun.
    I do, with enough money i can buy whatever airplane i wanted. I have a path to legal machine gun ownership as well. I'm not complaining because i feel entitled to things i cant afford. I do not like politicians saying "no you dont need that" when they have the same thing in their pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I do, with enough money i can buy whatever airplane i wanted. I have a path to legal machine gun ownership as well. I'm not complaining because i feel entitled to things i cant afford. I do not like politicians saying "no you dont need that" when they have the same thing in their pocket.
    I don't get what you're saying, do they own guns? I don't know, but if you're comparing your gun ownership to their security detail having guns then I don't see any relation what so ever.

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    Alex Jones. Nothing to see here.

    PROTIP: if you want people to take your political discussion seriously, only cite things you could cite in a university dissertation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Alex Jones. Nothing to see here.

    PROTIP: if you want people to take your political discussion seriously, only cite things you could cite in a university dissertation.
    Which universities are acceptable? Liberal ones like Berkeley, or Conservative ones like BYU?

    You seem to want to stack the deck. Let me remind you.

    College Faculties A Most Liberal Lot, Study Finds (washingtonpost.com)

    EXCERPT :

    College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.

    By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative, says the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking in partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed identifying themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans.

    The disparity is even more pronounced at the most elite schools, where, according to the study, 87 percent of faculty are liberal and 13 percent are conservative.

    "What's most striking is how few conservatives there are in any field," said Robert Lichter, a professor at George Mason University and a co-author of the study. "There was no field we studied in which there were more conservatives than liberals or more Republicans than Democrats. It's a very homogenous environment, not just in the places you'd expect to be dominated by liberals."

    Religious services take a back seat for many faculty members, with 51 percent saying they rarely or never attend church or synagogue and 31 percent calling themselves regular churchgoers. On the gender front, 72 percent of the full-time faculty are male and 28 percent female.

    The findings, by Lichter and fellow political science professors Stanley Rothman of Smith College and Neil Nevitte of the University of Toronto, are based on a survey of 1,643 full-time faculty at 183 four-year schools. The researchers relied on 1999 data from the North American Academic Study Survey, the most recent comprehensive data available. "


    Here's something really simple to grasp. If you dismiss Alex Jones simply because it came from him, then you need to do the same with Michael Moore. They are both extremists that promote their own agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Alex Jones. Nothing to see here.

    PROTIP: if you want people to take your political discussion seriously, only cite things you could cite in a university dissertation.
    Please provide me with a list of acceptable media outlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    I don't get what you're saying, do they own guns? I don't know, but if you're comparing your gun ownership to their security detail having guns then I don't see any relation what so ever.
    Yeah, a lot of them do own personal guns...... but i also connect having someone protect you with a gun to owning a gun. Gabby Gifford's husband purchased a 1911 and an AR15 after her being shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Yeah, a lot of them do own personal guns...... but i also connect having someone protect you with a gun to owning a gun. Gabby Gifford's husband purchased a 911 and an AR15 after her being shot.
    OK then I agree with you that if AR15s were banned then any government politician, even the president, shouldn't be allowed to own one. I don't agree that it should change any of the way their security detail is handled though. Personal use and ownership, yes definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbow View Post
    OK then I agree with you that if AR15s were banned then any government politician, even the president, shouldn't be allowed to own one. I don't agree that it should change any of the way their security detail is handled though. Personal use and ownership, yes definitely.
    Sounds fair. Security detail should be allowed to own guns since theyre in the business of protecting important people. I will start a security business and start issuing a paycheck to myself for defending myself.

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    You have to register all guns in NY?

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    This is dubious. Probably didnt happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    This is dubious. Probably didnt happen.
    You need to get out from under your rock. It did happen. If you used Google, you wouldn't have thought that it was dubious. He has been burglarized before, and the police think that this is the same guy returning again. This guy creates himself as an easy target.

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