...which photo is suppose to be scarier? :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
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...which photo is suppose to be scarier? :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbow
Ahh shit. Didnt realize that was in S. Africa.
imagine if South Africa adopted some of Obama's gun control policies.... it could have prevented something like this from ever happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
"In South Africa, owning a gun is conditional on a competency test and several other factors, including background checking of the applicant, inspection of an owner's premises, and licensing of the weapon by the police introduced in July 2004. The process is currently undergoing review,[1] as the police are at present, not able to adequately or within reasonable time, process either competency certification, new licenses or renewal of existing licenses. Minimum waiting period frequently exceeds 2 years from date of application"
Is there anything a gun cant fix?????
Brain Wound Eliminates Man's Mental Illness - NYTimes.com
I kinda agree with where he's coming from, but i would chose to be more tactful in how i said it. I am tired of these victims being paraded around on the gun control campaign too..... but i also realize that these are grieving families that are being manipulated by politicians. I would carefully express to those victims that the actions of criminals should not have an effect on my rights as a law abiding citizen. Given the chance to speak to Obama, Piers Morgan or any of the other gun control pushers........ i would tell them to suck a dick. Unfortunately..... most of those liberal democrats, Obama especially.... would probably just think to themselves "been there, done that"Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
Yeah. We should have voted for Romney.
Romney would not have been without issues. It would just be a different set of problems with him. Incidents such as Newtown, Aurora, Benghazi, and Boston still would have occurred, the Administrations responses may have differed.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
Most intelligent thing you have ever typed.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
You're right. All that would have happened. And you're right. The administrations responses might have differed some. I'd be more interested in the overall public reaction to those responses if Romney was in office. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
LMAO. More intelligent that you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
It wouldn't have mattered. You seem to believe that people's fearful reactions should mean that we should make changes to the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
What do you believe would have been different about a Romney administration response to some of those events, you can summarize if you want...Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
Condemnation of the people committing the acts, rather than calling for a ban on the tools used.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
Ok. So you believe Romney, like Obama, would have condemned the people committing the acts. What would Romney have done different?Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
Anything regarding his possible Presidency is pure speculation, but I would venture that he probably would not have supported Feinstein's bill to the same degree as Obama has. He may have proposed other bills, such as mental health proposals, but we will never know, and there is no benefit to trying to "armchair quarterback" from that view at this point in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
I initiated the speculation. Quarterback!Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
You don't think he would have supported Feinsteins bill, or something similar to it?
I simply speculate that he would not have supported Feinstein's bill, as it was written, to the same extent that Obama pushed it daily, and was upset when it failed to gain enough Democrat votes to pass through the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
The reason that it does not matter is because Romney is not the President, and Obama is the President. We have to work with what we have.
His governance record seems to suggest that he might have.Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
So if either administration would have supported some iteration of an assault weapons ban, it is foolish to pretend that only Obama is some kind of evil gun grabbing dictator and that there isn't something more to a gun ban that you might be turning a blinder to because you have some kind of idealogical grudge.
My thoughts exactlyQuote:
The reason that it does not matter is because Romney is not the President, and Obama is the President. We have to work with what we have.
I am not saying that Romney would have supported additional gun regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
His political position does not currently support Feinstein's proposal.
"I believe we need to focus on enforcing our current laws rather than creating new laws that burden lawful gun owners. I believe in safe and responsible gun ownership and that anyone who exercises the right to keep and bear arms must do so lawfully and properly. I do not believe in a one-size-fits-all federal approach to gun ownership because people keep and use firearms for different reasons. Law-abiding citizens have a right to protect their homes and their families and as President, I will vigorously defend that right." - Romney, Jan 7, 2008, The Washington Post
"Yeah, I'm not in favor of new pieces of legislation on guns and taking guns away or making certain guns illegal. We of course don't want to have automatic weapons, and that's already illegal in this country, to have automatic weapons. What I believe is we have to do is to make enormous efforts to enforce the gun laws that we have and to change the culture of violence we have. And you ask, how are we going to do that? Good schools, to give people the hope and opportunity they deserve, and perhaps less violence from that. But let me mention another thing. And that is parents. We need moms and dads helping raise kids." - Romney, Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate , Oct 16, 2012
Me and Romney it seems have similar stances on gun control.Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
"Welcome to the Republican Party." - SinfixQuote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
(quote made up by me)
Obama invited me. Seems like they gave him a blue tie though instead if a red one.Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
Obama wore a blue tie in the debates. Romney wore the red tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
So someone must have thought he was a democrat and gave him a blue tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
Obama and I have similar stances on gun control as well.
We know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
So then if me, Romney, and Obama all have similar stances on gun control, what do you think Im getting at?
What you are getting at is a fallacy contrived in your head. They only have similar stances in your mind. Obama made it very clear that he wants to increase restrictions on the firearms that you can purchase through dealers new, and Romney has not taken that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
Except that you said he did, and he did, in fact, pass these restrictions. So, unless there's another governor mitt Romney of Mass. that no one knows about but you, I suppose it isn't me who made up things now, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
Romney did not support Feinstein's 2013 Assault Weapons Ban. Please show me where he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
What did I say?Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
On the speculatory topic:
"You dont think he would have supported Feinsteins bill or something similar to it?"
Is that what you want me to show you? Something similar to Feinstein's bill that he supported before? Just trying to clarify what you want to see so I can post what you want to see, I don't want you backpedaling and saying "no I didn't say that"
Show where he said that he supports Feinstein's submitted version of the 2013 Assault Weapons Bill. Obama clearly stated that he supported it and stumped for it. Where did Romney state that same support for the bill?Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
You are the one that tends to backpedal and dance around trying to use technicalities when you misstate something.