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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    So you think I should be responsible for the guys family so he doesnt have to be? Maybe he should find something more more constructive to do with his time. Maybe even get some additional schooling or training so he could actually support himself without govt handouts.
    Is a guy who works 12hrs a day at a low paying job to put food on his table and a roof over his head suddenly irresponsible because he smoked a joint? Would the same guy be equally irresponsible if he worked 8hrs a day and made $100k/year? Knowing that its present in the system for a month, you can smoke one joint for less than $20 and get disqualified. If I spent $20/month on a CD, or going to the movies, or buying bottle of wine instead of buying food or putting it toward the light bill, does that make me equally irresponsible? If my friends paid for it instead of me since I'm not making much money, does smoking a free joint make me irresponsible? Or is it the notion of committing a misdemeanor make me irresponsible: Since speeding is a misdemeanor crime in GA, am I equally irresponsible doing 12+ the speed limit? Should I be taken off welfare in this case?

    Or many its about simple responsibility. If you are doing something you KNOW will inhibit your chances to support yourself, then you arent trying to support yourself. Welfare is supposed to be a temporary thing while you get back on your feet. Its not meant to be a lifestyle.
    So pretty much is its only wrong because its illegal

    What freedoms does it impose on? Drug tests for handouts are no more an imposition than a background check or a test to get your drivers licesnse.
    According to Marchwinski v. Howard, your fourth amendment ones. Background checks, consequently, are not the same as a search and seizure of your personal property, in this case, your blood, hair, and urine.

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    -Spend money on job training
    -spend money to combat the system abusers
    -spend money making school grants accessible to more people

    ALL of those are better, more responsible, solutions that would get a better return on the investment than the reactionary solution of drug testing welfare recipients

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