Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
Too put it simple, ALL THE ABOVE. Want to talk about FAIR SHARE? Both sides have been overpromising and under delivering for a generation.

The simple answer is everyone and i mean EVERYONE is going to have to pay. Theres ways to do it without shafting people directly, like raising SS age, phasing it in, privatizing it, etc.
Definitely agree that we need to restructure our debts so that we can afford them and minimize the pain but if we don't increase the debt ceiling before make those changes (raising SS age etc) then there will be a lot of pain immediately and it will not be done in a way that most people consider fair.

Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
There are no laws that require spending except SS and medicare. Promises have been made, but since when has a politician been trustworthy? Who should be shafted? No one needs to get shafted. Some people just wont get paid to sit at home on unemployment for 4 years. Welfare requirements could go back to where they were 5 years ago. The list goes on and on with pork projects and handout programs that dove the vast majority of the budget short falls.
It's not just welfare spending. It's all the government spending including debt interest, military salaries, immigration enforcement, employee salaries, etc. You could end unemployment insurance tomorrow (UI maxes out at less than 2 years, not sure where you got 4 years from) and still not get close to making all the payments on everything else. We need to cut spending but it needs to be done in a smart way, not just in a cut all cash flow and let the chips fall where they may manner.