Rice and Ryan Speeches Opinions
Here are the speeches in the order of their appearance:
What do you guys think? Just talking points or valid arguments?
I think Condi knocked it out of the park. I think she covered a lot of legit topics that have been 'dismissed' by lesser and unimportant topics.
I watched 5 minutes of that Republican National Convention and lost 2837 brain cells and 4 IQ points. What a god damn sideshow this thing is
You did exactly what most democrats do and did exactly what got us in this mess to begin with. Ignore the issues and vote for the black guy.Originally Posted by .blank cd
Vote for the white guy. I will. Maybe there will be a "Change".
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Ryan was great... Ready to see Some garbage removed from the White House.
Yup.. And people who never voted before, Voted in 08 just to see Obama win.. Pretty sad.. I wonder where they at now.. Maybe still waiting for change ?
Let's hope they don't have to wait another 4 more years for "Change".
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Great! Here we go with the Black v/s White "BS" again...
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Neither political party is looking out for the interests of the American people. Nothing will change as long as you keep electing the puppets from the same two political parties and they keep catering to special interest groups.
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I find it funny you "republicans" think that Romney and his team will provide you with better results than Obama. Do you truly believe any elected president can walk into office and truly make a change in his term that you will see? Probably not.
Plus Obama probably wouldn't have been such a crappy president if the republicans didn't do everything in their power to prevent any of his ideas from taking place. So really both are to blame.
At least Obama has done some good, some good that has effected me in good ways, so I may just vote for him again.
Paul Ryan is an idiot, every speech I've heard from the convention has been total crap. 100% BS campaigning.
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Sure you can. Obama did it. He passed the Stimulus, Cash for Clunkers, Obamacare, further divided America between rich and poor, united the Republican party, catalyst for the Tea Party, saw the rise of the Occupy movement and supported it, not pass a budget, played the race card, played the class warfare up, continued to blame the previous administration for all their woes, and on and on the list goes. (btw, Bush couldn't make a change either in his first term either... *sarcasms abound)
Really? Substitute "Obama" with "Bush" and can you really believe that statement you just made? I'm just talking first term too. People who really believe such things are really naive. Yes both parties are to blame for the way government is run and handled today but the approach is to fix it, not exacerbate(sp?) it more. Obama had the House and Senate in his pocket for the first 2 years and he was able to pass all that he wanted. Now that he doesn't have the House anymore, he's crying foul? Bush had a mixed Congress his first 2 years, Repub House/Senate next 2, then mixed for the remaining 4. Wiki U.S. Congress.
He is running for VP, so yes he is campaigning but if you really consider yourself to be a 'free thinking citizen' then vote your values. If you think government is the answer then vote Obama. If you think you are the answer, vote Romney. The Obama camp is going to have a hard time competing with Romney/Ryan when it comes to the past 4 years. There isn't much there you can hide since hindsight is 20/20.
You must watch MSNBC... talk about losing brain cells.
I think conventions are boring. I respect the hell out of condi,but didn't watch her speech.
Paul Ryan gave arguably one of the most memorable speeches for a VP. He's smart and just as good a speaker as Obama, maybe better.
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Ignore the issues? Everyone at the RNC took care of that. The sooner ya'll take those "sheets" out of the closet, the sooner you can begin to live a happier life
Another uninformed, thinly veiled racist comment. If you believe Romney will bring any significant change to the white house, I've got some investment property in St. Tropez. Think you could manage a paragraph on what "garbage" means, backed up with facts and not meaningless propaganda?
Enough said.
And Joe Biden is so much better? He doesn't even know what century we are in. What a leader.
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Quit trying to use the race card. You want to label Repubs as KKK? Go learn your history. More Repubs voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats.
"Garbage" has no reference to race. And, in case you forgot, Obama is half-white. You need to stop thinking of him as only a black man. He is mixed, and his skin color does not control his decisions - his political party affiliation does that.
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I didn't watch Condi's but I thought Paul Ryan's speech was intense. He did a great job and hit on a lot of good points. I was very impressed by not only the things he said, but his actual delivery was good too. I watched McCain's speech as well and while it had a lot of good things in it, he didn't have the fire and intensity that Paul Ryan had.
Oh, I'm sorry, please point out where I said anything about Biden.
This.
Please point out where I said you did, smart ass. I was simply stating both VP candidates are idiots. It's not just Ryan.
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people dont want to admit it, but they know its true.
Sinfix brought up the race card, I was just responding to him, but I can give you another history lesson if you'd like to get schooled once again.
Obama still has my vote
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I'm curious to know what history lesson you have.
Post away.
Point is...... no matter what Ryan or Romney says.... Obama has your vote. Ryan could have gave the greatest speech in the history of humanity..... and you're still voting for Obama.
I give you credit for being honest though......... you admitted that you're not even listening to the other side, you've already got Obama penciled in.
Speeches mean nothing.
Not until the GOP gets off its anti-intellectual, anti-scientific, über-religious platform, I won't vote republican again.
...And I voted for Bush Jr.
hard not to laugh at this coming from an Obama supporter.
I agree with you on those points...... but you have to make a choice. Republican bible thumping is a thorn in the side of science..... but if Obama continues to be president, it's not gonna matter what we "allow" them to do, nobody will have the money to do anything. Our economy is more important than social views.
Wait, now I support Obama?
Just because I don't like the republican nominee and think Obama has done some good doesn't make me an "Obama supporter."
Obama gives great speeches, words can be BS though so...
You can't expect to make a blanket racial accusation and not get called out on it.
Everyone needs to stop with the racial comments. It doesn't do anything productive, and you don't have to play the same game as him.
While I don't particularly like Obama's Democratic Party's policies, I thought that his speech yesterday was well-said, and he made his points well. He doesn't cave in to racist talk - why should you?
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Say it ain't so!!!!
It'snot BUSH's fault! It's yours!
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
You don't have to be republican to be religious nor vice versa. I got a black coworker who is catholic and is a democrat and it don't bother me any. I think it's just your perspective which is antithetical of what you believe the GOP is.
If you really were scientific about it, then you'd see the evidence of Obama's body of work is far removed from what the hypothesis ever was. You're beyond science at this point and just dead-set on your faith-based belief of Obama. If you really call yourself an intellectual, then let the math prove itself out. To help: Martin Feldstein: Romney's Tax Plan Can Raise Revenue - WSJ.com
According to your own post, yes.
By any chance you got any example of things the GOP stopped and didnt offer up their own version of?
I know for a fact that the GOP has offered up more than 30 different jobs bills that the Senate Dems have refused to even allow committee votes on. Maybe its them that are the problem, not the GOP in the House.
BTW, sources have said that Christie was asked to tone down his speech so as to not drown out Ann Romney. Tim Paulenty did have an outstanding speech though. This speech was obviously not written at his direction though because he is a bit stiff. I almost think it is an edited version of Christie's.
That doesn't say I support him, that says that I have seen some good from him, I don't love Obama or believe Obama is a great president, but I'm just saying he isn't that bad in my book.
Im not voting on social issues because no party represents my views. I am voting on economic policies alone mainly because i believe if everyone is working and has good jobs, the rest of the stuff will be easier to handle.
IMO, Romney (more specifically Ryan) will handle the economy far better than Obama and his team of people have done. Heres why:
Romney/Ryan subscribe to Conservative economic principles which i fundamentally believe in over liberal policies. I believe in private sector hiring, lower spending, less govt, but not without some meaningful regulation. I believe it is better to hire a person than give him UE benefits. I believe the RICH create wealth by creating jobs.
Obamas plan is to continue giving out UE benefits , and to raise taxes on the "wealthy" (which is a sibjective term) to hire more teachers, policemen, and construction workers via govt stimulus money. I dont want a nation of firefighters and teachers, or people on UE. I just dont believe in his strategy. He doesnt want to do anything to help small business or the middle class out, and his record proves it.
The middle class is not ANY BETTER OFF than it was when he took office, in many cases its worse. 5 Trillion in NEW DEBT all owed him has not done anything for the economy, and hes just as much in the pocket of the big banks as any GOP person was.
4 years ive seen little to no action, and hes not serious about getting anything done. he had 2 years of complete control, and didnt do anything to get any sort of meaningful agenda done. he doesnt know how to work across the aisle because its not his style.
If you could show me a Bill Clinton, who did some liberal things but also understood how to get the economy going, Id be much less critical of the current Dem leadership.
Ryan is not the boogie man. Listen to what he says ,read his policies, hes very smart. Hes got IDEAS, ideas arent bad. Ideas have to be thrown out, tinkered with, and negotiated. At least he has ideas, where other people have NOTHING but blame.
I do not believe in the religious, anti gay marriage , anti legalizing weed , or anti pro choice section of the GOP party, but its something im willing to overlook because the economy is #1 to me.
has nothing to do with race, and anyone can vote for who they think will do the best job. If someone is voting for obama, that is their right. I suggest we leave the "you onlt did it because hes black" stuff out of it because while that may be true for some voters, its probably just as true that peopel DIDNT vote for Obama because he is black.
Its an ignorant argument, stick to the issues.
IMO
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And that you may vote for him again, meaning you already did once.
and if Romney/Ryan get in, they have 4 years to do the same thing, or they should be voted out too. We should hold them to the same standard Obama is being held to.
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I hope we dont have to keep our standards this low through another administration.
I did, but only because I didn't want McCain. lol
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