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    Quote Originally Posted by sport_122 View Post
    Not true. Because the scientist does not go back and rework all observations that lay the framework for their current research. They take those things on faith. Faith that because someone has told me that this is what happens when I do A to B and I am assuming it is true when I am going to something to D.
    How do you figure scientific research is based on faith? Can you give an example of "faith based" scientific research?


    There is a much stronger grain of faith in science than you would expect. And don't get me started on the part of the scientific method that would even lead you to believe that IF you do something to D, that you will accurately predict a result. That belief is an example of faith in and of itself.
    Which part of the scientific method is this? Can you explain further?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    How do you figure scientific research is based on faith? Can you give an example of "faith based" scientific research?


    Which part of the scientific method is this? Can you explain further?
    Sure. BTW its not faith based science, its the part of science that mandates the use of faith.

    this is a little length but hang in there

    Faith is a belief. It can be blind or it can be evidential.

    How many of your friends believe in the big bang or evolution? How many of them have actually gone out and done some sort of research to prove it vs relying on what was told to them in class?

    Hypotheses and the use of controls are typically results of someones belief that certain things are given and will present a specific type of result.

    An example. All theories and hypothesis that are based off of the Big Bang. The big bang cannot be proven. It can be strongly hypothesized through observation, but it has never been observed. Even though this is the case, we have TONs of scientific hypothesis' that are based off of "IF" the Big Bang is how our universe was formed.

    Evolution, as a theory of origin, cannot be proven because we don't have complete development data. And we never will. It will remain a theory that people take on faith, based off of incomplete origin records.

    The arguments around these types of things always make me laugh we people argue science vs religion

    There is this side of science where some people believe everything will be made known in time. we are realizing how much we don't know through the scientific method not how much we do know. For every one thing we think we figure out, we ask one hundred questions. But for some reason, there are a group of people who seem to think it different. Simply not true.

    And ironically, all of these exact things can be said for people who claim faith in God.

    My personal belief is that the atheistic movement, at some point in history, began to cling onto science as if it were a way to forge your own path without having to give any credit to God. the scientific method is much older than the atheist. That said. science does not rival or argue against God. People argue against God.
    "Their [the new atheists] treatment of the religious viewpoint is pathetic to the point of non-being. Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion would fail any introductory philosophy or religion course. Proudly he criticizes that whereof he knows nothing... I am indignant at the poor quality of the argumentation in Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, and all of the others in that group."

    ~Michael Ruse, atheist & author and philosopher of biology at Florida State University
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