Jesus thread...

[geoff]

Any shroud of intelligence is welcomed, but I have yet to see that from got milk or blank. QD, the jury is still out on you. Blank, I'm not surprised with you, every thread I see you post in is filled with stubbornness and pig headedness. Not surprising so many people are frustrAted by you...like a blind man refusing to believe the sky is blue or tomatoes are red. Good Lord man, how do you live day by day. I will have to take a break from this, I think I'm forming a tumor from trying to understand the ignorance here. Take care.

[quickdodge®]

QD: How do you know the story is not 100% accurate? How do you know there were not eye witnesses? I gave you a list of historical documents the corroborate the story, beyond that I can do know more to convince you. We do not know 100% of every historical figure or account was portrayed as 100% accurate. We find documentation to corroborate the historical figures/events and then assume them to be accurate and true.

I never said the story is not accurate. I just have a hard time believing it to be true as with a lot of the stories/events of the Bible. And I surely never said anything about there not being witnesses. I laughed at the eye witness comment because you're taking the word of people that "saw" this from over 2,000 years ago as gospel (well, as a "Christian," you're supposed to). The way to debunk your argument about historical figures outside of the Bible possibly being inaccurate is easy. The non-Bible historical figures aren't claiming a "magical" event. The light bulb? We know it was invented. The television? Same. Discovery of the US? Again the same. Christopher Columbus wasn't in the middle of the ocean when land appeared before him out of thin air. That's hardly relatable to a man claiming to come back from the dead or from a man claiming to walk across water. Again, you're trying to justify these magical claims with claims that we do know actually happened.

The claim which a person or event makes should not be the determining factor as to the authenticity of an event/figure.

What?!?!? The claims people make have EVERYTHING to do with authenticity. If I were to walk around claiming I floated across the entire continent in ashes from a volcano, people would outcast me in a second.You go around claiming things that are impossible and you're going to be on the road to a mental institution.

Hell, people believe the big bang occurred yet what solid evidence is there that there was once nothing and then matter appeared and exploded to eventually create all life. With out living eye witness account/picture/or video are we not taking everything historical to be completely accurate on faith? No I am not skeptical of Jesus walking on water or raising the dead; I take that on faith, simply because I know the personal experiences I've had with God that would be considered by science a "miracle". It seems to me that when it comes to historical evidence, one's own personal bias becomes a factor. What exactly makes the sources to the evidence of Jesus and His miracles not credible? If you have some information that shows they lied, I would love to see it.

You're right on the Big Bang theory. But just as there may not be evidence of such a theory, there is also no evidence that God, or a god, did it either.

I provide for you historical evidence of Jesus and His miracles, yet again you dismiss it.

You have no evidence to provide except "eye witnesses."

You yourselves are no biologists, nor geneticists, nor scientists but rather read the words of other men and take it as truth. Have either of you seen evolution take place in a lab? Have either of you visited the beginning of time to witness the big bang or life form by chance?

The same questions could be asked to you, my friend. You're not a scientist, yourself. Have you visited the beginning of time to witness God creating everything we see?

QD, the jury is still out on you.

You don't have to leave the jury out. Bring it on in and call me what you want. I've yet to resort to name calling and insults (intentionally that is). I've even told you that I have no problems with you or your faith. And I'm certainly not going to try to dissuade you or anyone of their personal beliefs. Who am I to tell another what to think, do or believe? Later, QD.