In your eyes, Obama can do no wrong. Obama has the unconditional love and support from his black voters.Originally Posted by .blank cd
Enlighten me with any mistakes you feel Obama has made so far......
In your eyes, Obama can do no wrong. Obama has the unconditional love and support from his black voters.
Enlighten me with any mistakes you feel Obama has made so far......
Racism exists, inside and outside the media. It existed in the old days also, and will exist in the future. Our ancestors just were tougher and had a thicker skin. They did what they needed to do, and didn't let other people drag them down. Perhaps there is a lesson in there.
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They allowed you to travel on their paved roads that your tax money paid for, in addition to the workers who paved the roads also paying taxes on the money they got payed to pave the roads.
That's easy, he hasn't banned guns, banned the Republican party, dismissed the Supreme Court conservative judges and replaced them with liberal party members who haven't even taken the bar exam, and hasn't yet instituted complete national welfare for all minorities. He hasn't put all of the white males into the cotton fields yet either.
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You say that jokingly....... but i would LOVE to see that put to vote with black voters. I can pretty much guarantee that it would pass with ease.
Tax white males to fund minority welfare - would pass with 98% of the votes. the 2% couldnt read and checked the wrong box.
Reduce taxes on all black people and increase them on all white people to repay slavery - would pass with 100% of the votes.
Pretty much any hand out that is funded by the hard work of someone else will get rave reviews from the democratic party and black voters in particular.
but of course they would be justified in this because "we've taken so much from them"
^ lOl. Funny thing is, not one black American alive nor any of their living relatives have ever been subjected to slavery. I'd say less than 25% of the black population was even subject to segregation, yet they like to rant and rave like it happened yesterday. Slavery was a very bad thing, but get over it. How long can they play the race card?
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Its a catch 22 because without small business roads don't get built. Taxes have to be collected to be used
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Now if I made a generalize remark like that, "you" people would then bitch and moan how racist I am and how I should move past race. Take a survey to back up your worthless claim.
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"you people" do make comments about "us people".
I promise you.... you would be highly embarrassed if they ever do a national poll of black voters with a question like that.
or maybe you wont... you may be one of the ones who will check yes.
It's trendy to be sympathetic to black people. I personally am tired of it. You've gotten sympathy long enough, time to STFU and be responsible for your own actions.
can you criticize anything black people do without being a racist? are they so perfect with such a positive effect on society that any criticism you could possibly make would have to be fabricated racist lies?
Going back to the Cartoon overall message. Can someone please explain how this administration has added anymore regulation and bureaucracy than the last 3 presidents? The problem I have with Obama that he has not taken care of our financial Achilles heel, which is our banking and investing system. This Country runs off of spending, and consumers have been hammered on all fronts (Food,gas,Luxuries) since 2004. I was against the bailout but understood we had to do it (Global ramification), but the banking system should have paid the price for their mistakes and Clinton decision on getting rid of the Glass–Steagall Act should have been over turned. I really blame Clinton for the state of our economy as he really push this country to produce wealth on wall street instead of actually creating and producing a product which has always been the key to our financial success.
Most of the wealth in this country now is made on wall street and that money is not being spent and on top of that we the consumers are holding back due to wages not keeping up with inflation and with soaring prices for the basic necessities.
Another thing I would love see is the breaking up of large companies that have become monopolies and more tax breaks and incentives for start ups. Businesses competing equals a better product, lower prices, and competitive pay (companies are trying to get the best or keep the employees they have).
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You know the black community so well, I guess when you notice them from afar you become a expert. If you seek the answer you're looking for, then you need to poll blacks under a certain income bracket and education level to get those results you claim just like with any poll.
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I live in columbus, i dont see black people from "afar".... columbus is nearly 70% black and less than 20% white. I work with mostly black people. If i go clubbing, 90% black... if i got to a bar.... 90% black... if i go out to eat.... 90% black... work with mostly black people, neighborhood is mostly black... entire city is black................ i am the minority here. I interact with black people on a daily basis in almost every single thing i do. Unless im sitting at this computer beating off, im with a black person. You dont have to be fuckin Malcolm X to understand black people. You think you're such a complex mystery that we would have to do some long term study to understand you.... Nope.... i get it........
Be honest with yourself and drop the denial routine. You understand the bias.... you just dont like it.
LMAOOO WELL EXECUTED +1Should have just done this with your first post as that is all it really is.
Racism is still alive and well in this country. Blacks just refuse to admit they own the other 50% of the problem.
I seriously doubt this had anything to do with race. Especially considering that I got it from a computer networking blog. I think the big ears are not to "monkeyfy" him, but to make him appear idiotic/childlike.
Bahahahahahahahaha! I like how you act like this is a right wing policy only. Liberals are just as guilty of this as anyone. Ie the Chic-fil-a situation. not once did he say that he hated gays, but here go's the liberal hippies quick to skew his words and cause an uproar.
Its politics period. has nothing to do with right or left wing.
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What Obama said was not taken out of context. Its what he believes. His policy demonstrates it. Proof is in the pudding:
8+% UE
largest deficits of any president ever
Demonizes Private sector and SB owners
Never held a private sector job in his life
ALways been a govt worker
Despite record spending, despite complete control over all branches of govt for 2 years, despite 4 years of the same regurgitated talk, the middle class is still struggling, UE hasnt gone down, the economy is anemic and not growing. Hes not made anything better for anyone, hes made it worse. The democrats can play the whole "IT WAS SO TERRIbLE WHEN WE TOOK OVER" card all they want, people want results after 4 years, not excuses.
Obamas whole "fair share" argument doesnt hold water and he knows it. Thats the whole point behind the "you didnt build it" speech. He was saying that business owners OWED the rest of us "their fair share" in taxes because they USED the rest of us to get to where they are now.
Its the most asinine argument in history. No amount of FAIR SHARE taxation is going to do anything he says it going to do like "pay down the deficit" and "invest" in education to "grow the economy". WTF does that even mean?
My thoughts are, SOLVE THE EXISTING PROBLEMS WITH THE MONEY YOU HAVE, CUT SPENDING WHERE ITS NEEDED, No one should give the govt another DIME until they live within a reasonable budget.
He spent 700 billion in stim 1 and we got 10 months of a BUMP in UE, but as we have seen its not sustainable because when the govt money dries up, you have to spend it again.
Obama fundamental belief is that the economy has to be grown by govt spending and govt jobs. He believes THAT is the middle class. Hes wrong. his policies have proven it
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First of all, Obama being portrayed as a monkey makes sense, its not a racist thing. Has no one here ever heard of the saying, " a monkey on my back"? Here is the exact definition.
a monkey on your back
a serious problem that you cannot forget When you know you have to do everything perfectly, it puts a giant monkey on your back.
Usage notes: also used in the form get the monkey off your back (to end a problem): By winning the championship, this team has finally got the monkey off its back.
Etymology: based on an earlier meaning of a monkey on your back (a habit of using an illegal drug) source: idioms.free dicitonary.com
So as you can see, the cartoonist was not trying to be racist or over conservative. He was stating that Obama and his policies have been a serious problem to business. The race issue is dead. Slavery was abolished almost 150 years ago, civil rights was almost 50 years ago. The president of the United States is black. The black people have achieved everything MLK ever dreamed of. There exists racial stereotypes because they are guilty of them. I once heard a well kept black man who owned a medical supply business tell his son, " you stop runnin around with those hoodlum niggas, they only going to bring you down". Not all blacks are the same, those who made a life for themselves are ashamed of the gang banging low lives.
Finally, instead of this government wasting all the tax payers money and giving huge banks bail outs, how about we start fixing this economy by cutting pay of government officials? The president earns a $400,000 annual salary, along with a $50,000 annual expense account, a $100,000 nontaxable travel account and $19,000 for entertainment. Not to mention all the other perks and payoffs by lobbyists and the vacation time they get. And what about congress? The ENTIRE government has been irresponsible and corrupt. Therefore they need to be penalized. They forget that they are ELECTED officials, it is a privalege not a right. They work for us and they need to be reminded of that, conservative and liberal alike.
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It's racist to use the word monkey in the same sentence as. Black people. Clearly you and this author are both negro hating racists for not being offended by them mocking Obama's race by comparing him to a monkey. Monkeys are not silly foolish creatures often used in comedy and cartoon sketches, monkey is a racist term used by white people to belittle african americans. Now that i've set you straight.............
enjoy some appropriate political humor.
BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! STFU ABOUT RACE!!! THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT RACE IS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the reason I stopped coming in here. Say one thing against the ruling power ( their words not mine) and your a racist, or a bigot, or anti-poor.
Try not. Do or Do not.
Sorry for not responding soon, have been offline, moving into new house currently.
As to regulation, Obama has increased it massively with the Obamacare bill. It had many non-related add-ins, and will increase spending more than all of the other presidents combined.
We shouldn't be too hard on Obama though, after all, this is his first real job in his whole life.
Clinton was a continuation of the Carter administrations bad judgment on de-coupling housing from inflation.
Regulation at a federal level is not the solution. Less government intervention except in extreme cases. If a person or company tries hard to grow, and succeeds, why should they be punished for their success? Who wants to work hard, just to have the government take away the profits?
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This is not what increasing taxes does. Its so silly to hear when people make it sound like raising taxes on top earners is some kind of egregious wrong doing
Explain. You offer nothing but an empty statement.
Are you referring to Reich's 3 min explanation video, "The Truth About The Economy"? Are you drinking the MoveOn Kool-Aid?
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the problem is WHy they want to do it. Obama spins it as its some sort of social injustice and if we just raised taxes on the "rich" who "ruined it for the rest of us" it will solve ALL THE PROBlEMS. Its NOT TRUE.
THe revenue he raises (which is subjective because all data points to a DROP in revenue when you raise taxes) will only be used to further expand his govt programs which DONT HELP PEOPLE LONG TERM. Its a blip, its a fix, its a minor help. Its not sustainable.
Obama lacks the balls to even attempt to fix the tax code so he just preaches this FAIR SHARE bullshit that he knows will NEVER BE PASSED anyways. His plan is nothing but rhetoric.
I mean i am totally for letting the bush tax cuts expire for everyone on principle. But he should eliminate the corporate loop holes that allow companies to hide money overseas like GE, he should do something that gives incentive for companies to come over here. dont tax repatriated profits, etc.
but he wont do that because he wants to buy votes, hes not interested in helping the middle class or the poor
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Agreed
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
"Personal property is the effect of society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society, as it is for him to make land originally."
-Thomas Paine
"All the Property that is necessary to a man, for the conservation of the individual and the propagation of the species, is his natural right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all property superfluous to such purposes is the property of the publick, who, by their laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other laws dispose of it, whenever the welfare of the publick shall demand such disposition. He that does not like civil society on these terms, let him retire and live among savages."
-Ben Franklin
Words written by two founding fathers. This is the stuff this country was founded on, and I don't think it should be dismissed. I think what most people are taking from that speech is a little twisted and mostly taken out of context. But, there is no right or wrong... just opinions. And that's mine for what it's worth.
^ Agreed. I wouldn't hire a plumber and then tell everyone I fixed my own sink by myself just because I paid the plumber. We live in a complex ecosystem where we are all interdependent to some extent. I don't know why people are so against giving credit to the people and infrastructure that help their businesses thrive. That seems very narcassistic. It doesn't diminish someone's hard work just because they had help along the way. You can argue about what the president meant when he refered to "that" but from the entire speech, it's pretty clear to me that he is talking about infrastructure.
So if the government is supposedly "helping" every business, why doesn't everybody own a business?
Plus all those government "items" in the pictures are just services. Services that you pay for either by taxes or a monthly bill. That's hardly "helping".
A business starts with an ideal, and a determination and a drive to succeed.
In the eyes of Obama, no one is an 'entrepreneur'; all businesses leached off of someone somehow.... really?
Tell that to the kid with the Lemonade stand.....
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I got free clear tails with my ride.....
Some people have no desire to run a business, some people dont have the capital. There are a bunch of reasons..
I think again the statements meat is in his policies. Show me anything he has done in 4 years that makes the middle class BETTER. hes done nothing for the private sector besides continuing W Bush policies (which he campaigned against), hes done nothing for the average american that needs a job besides give them unlimited UE benefits, exploded the debt with little to nothing to show for it, hes done nothing on taxes. The only thing hes done was Obamacare which isnt even implemented AND it will be a TAX on the middle class.
YOu know that Ad that is running right now about Romney where Bain (2 years after he left) laid off some workers and one of the workers wife had cancer and lost her medical benefits? Well in Obamas world, not only would he lose his coverage, he would pay a fine if he didnt have coverage. Obama would tax him/fine him. Where is that narrative?
the YOU DIDNT BUILD IT is basically him saying hes pissed off at the private sector. He doesnt like them, he loves their money, but he doesnt think that the private sector does anything well. He wants everything to be nationalized or govt run. Which is why he keeps saying INVEST in education and roads and bridges. Didnt he have 700+ BILLION in the stimulus that was supposed to to just that? WHERE DID THAT MONEY GET WASTED?
They cant even spend the money they have well, why should we give them more?
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"I had the idea of making a lemonade stand. My dad built the stand, Dixie made the cups, a farmer down the street grew me some lemons, someone refined the sugar, the government piped water to my house,and my parents taught me the value of a dollar. BUT I BUILT THIS BUSINESS ALL BY MYSELF!"
-Lemonade kid
lol
I got free clear tails with my ride.....
:: facepalm ::
You're absolutely right. But why didn't he say that?
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I watched the video again. It sounds to me, at the end, when he said "If you have a business...you...you didn't build that" like he meant business as an actual physical building, and not business as an idea
i know what he meant with his statement. IMO my interpretation was that he was saying no 1 person does it alone. We are all in this together. We all depend on each other. It was just horribly put.
It will be taken as "you owe the govt more money in taxes because of what I have given you" which is the way the right is framing it.
Unfortunately he doesnt have much to combat it with because his record on job creation and helping small business is not stellar.
IMO of course
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So you're telling me that if we all kept the 20% or more that we give to the govt every year we would still have all those things?
The only reason this country has all the things it has is because we work together and share successes. If it weren't for govt projects we would have paved roads from coast to coast. We wouldn't have things like bankruptcy for business.
Paying taxes does not mean that you succeeded in all these things by yourself. Buying a sandwich doesn't mean you shouldn't be thankful to the person that made it for you. Currency is a mutual trade that benefits all persons involved.
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The roads were paid for by us, the taxpayers.
The Post Office is paid for by us, the taxpayers.
EVERY government service, institution, and employee, is paid for us, the taxpayers.
Show me a list of government services/offices that are not paid for by us, the taxpayers.
Business is transactions between people, whether they are individuals or companies.
Government cannot survive without the people and business. Business will continue whether there is government or not (not necessarily as easily, of course).
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