Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
Blank: I will dismiss that article not because a gay biast opinion, I will dismiss it because you seriously tried to use Wikipedia as a legitimate source.
Wikipedia cites all of its sources, especially when it comes to case studies. It is a legitimate source of information. Wheres the bibliography on the bible? I'd really like to see its sources...

You are using the same approach to the "gay gene" as most Christians use for the existence of God. You can't disprove it therefore it must exist. You can not use an argument that your kind automatically dismisses as insufficient to bring to the debate table.
Disproving the existence of something that doesnt exist is a logical fallacy.

You see, you stated the current laws of physics show no evidence for a God. One, my God is not bound by our laws of physics as He alone established them. Two, I don't expect you to just believe or argue that since it can't be proven it must be real. I can give you clear examples of the scientific kind that suggest intent and design, that point to the existence of an almighty being that put forth all that we know. Yet you simply dismiss it because you choose not to believe.
Even if there were evidence for some kind of divine creator, it doesnt mean its the Abrahamic God of the bible.

As far as the causes of homosexuality, I believe, and so do many students of science that sexual orientation is dependent on many factors, I.e. environment, choice, ect... The human mind is very influential and much more so a child's mind. Look at nazi Germany. One man some how managed to convince an entire nation of peopl and military that the Jews were to be wiped off the face of this earth, and that they were some how inferior.
Now you're getting it! Environmental influences lead up to choice, but there are other factors such as genetics and hormones that have been studied which lead up to it not being a choice.

This is what your next paragraph would sound like had this been before it was accepted and made legal....

Further, I don't hate BLACKS. Dont agree with their lifestyle, I don't agree with their over exaggerated plea, I don't agree with them forcing those with opposing views to agree with them, condone their behavior, and applaud them for just taking a shot in the mouth. Their BLACK life disgusts me. They wanna be BLACK, by all means go ahead and do so in the privacy of your own home. They have every human right that an individual in America is given. They want benefits, ok, every BLACK, BLACK/WHITE couple that has been together more than 5 years and has had a civil ceremony should recieve the same tax, insurance, ect benefits as a straight couple. But don't tarnish the tradition of marriage. Don't pollute our Tvs, schools, and society with your choice of COLOR. Don't parade down the street EATING FRIED CHICKEN. Don't wear a DASHIKI as you parade around in a BLACK pride parade and promote an agenda(which is illegal). Stop indoctrinating the youth that BLACK is the norm.
You change one term and immediately you sound like an ignorant racist.

This group breaks the values and laws we are all to follow. Freedom of speech, not for those that disagree with GLBT or else it's bigotry and hatred. Freedom to assemble and protest, unless against the gays cuz that's discrimination. Dressing in uniform while supporting the GLBT community when it is prohibited for any member of the military to be in uniform during any public support of any agenda. There are no heterosexual pride parades where straights all but f@ck eachother while walking down the street. They are perverse, they are forceful of their agenda, and they are corrupting traditional American values.
Corrupting traditional American values huh? LOL. You pick homosexuality as the bane of traditional American values? Your worldview is as narrow as the pages of the book you base it on.

If you disagree with being gay, thats fine. Thats what you have selectively picked out of the bible out of context to crusade against. Guess what, no one is forcing you to be gay, and no one will ever force you to be gay. Ever. Pushing their agenda would be trying to make you be gay. If you want to hate gays, thats fine, do it within your own home, within your own church. Dont push your hateful agenda and indoctrinate the youth that hating gays is the norm.

So answer me, if you have a set of gay sons/daughters and they ask for your blessing to be together; what say you? What about trans gender, where is this genetically caused?
The reason I didnt answer this question the first time is because you lack the cognitive ability to separate fact from beliefs.

Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
Also, you ever hear of NAMBLA? The GLBT community was once a big supporter of this but has recently rejected them so they are not politically damaged. After all, having a group of pedophile lovers is not good for the GLBT image. Funny how the NAMBLA now cries discrimination because they have been dropped from the "movement".
Why do evangelicals always use unhealthy sexual relationships between adults and children as their reason to hate gay lifestyle? Older men have sex with underage girls all the time, do we ban heterosexual relationships? While we're on the subject, historically the age of consent has been all over the place. What was once a normal relationship/marriage would be considered pedophilia today. Where do you draw the line and why?

Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
blank cd, no gene has been discovered in the mapping of DNA that is related to sexual orientation, and currently, it is not expected to be discovered. Hamer's "discovery" was found to be incorrect and misguided at best. Xq28 is not a "gay" gene.

Being gay is a choice. It is legally allowable, but marriage licenses are regulated by the state, and currently in the state of Georgia, gay marriage is not recognized as a legal union. Those are the facts whether you like them or not.

The issue is that the gay community attempt to push their minority agenda onto the majority of Americans. They want the schools to teach that being gay is normal, when the majority of Americans do not want their kids to be taught that in school. The gay community is not just asking for marriage rights, they are pushing against the beliefs of Americans who do not have the same opinion as them. Don't expect people to just say ok when you go against their beliefs.
Sorry, the overwhelming scientific opinion would not agree with you on it being a choice. Too much evidence that points in the other direction. If homosexuality was a choice, then it wouldnt be expressed in animals without the cognitive ability for choice and reason, but it is. The xq28 study is not the only study to have been performed, and I dont think you understand what a scientific dispute actually means. Its saying that the answer to the question is not this particular answer, not that the question is dismissed. EVEN IF it was a choice, who are you to say its wrong? I'm pretty sure its your CHOICE to own a gun....

Read your last paragraph again. Change ONE term and listen to how it sounds...

The issue is that the BLACK community attempt to push their minority agenda onto the majority of Americans. They want the schools to teach that being BLACK is normal, when the majority of Americans do not want their kids to be taught that in school. The BLACK community is not just asking for marriage rights, they are pushing against the beliefs of Americans who do not have the same opinion as them. Don't expect people to just say ok when you go against their beliefs.
This was EXACTLY what was said back in the 50s when people thought black people were inferior. Intolerance to gays is actually the minority opinion.