GUN CONTROL

[Vteckidd]

Actually, they were legal citizens before they purchased. They were not criminals. This is not Minority Report. We do not have a way to see the future, so it is likely that all of these killings would have still happened.

So, we have a known problem, but our actions won't result in a solution. That is irrational.

IE - We have a hole in the dam leaking water. Let's make a list of all of the lightbulbs in the building...

the whole point of this thread isnt to stop gun massacres, its to close LOOP HOLES IN THE SECURITY OF SELLING USED FIREARMS.

Or we can wait for straw purchases to start showing up in gun massacres and THEN we can talk about it :P

[Sinfix_15]

the whole point of this thread isnt to stop gun massacres, its to close LOOP HOLES IN THE SECURITY OF SELLING USED FIREARMS.

Or we can wait for straw purchases to start showing up in gun massacres and THEN we can talk about it :P

You cant prevent crazy people from doing crazy things. Increased gun registration will not effect crime in any way shape or form. The left wants to get rid of guns. They wanted to get rid of guns before any of these shootings took place. They dont want to lower crime, they want to get rid of guns. Maybe in their mind they think getting rid of guns will lower crime, but at some point that idea shifted from lowering crime to specifically getting rid of guns. I've been watching the news all week listening to people talk about getting rid of guns, not lowering crime.

To me, this is a very scary thought. Because i will only give up my gun.... at gun point.

[bu villain]

To me, this is a very scary thought. Because i will only give up my gun.... at gun point.

What if the second amendment was repealed? Do you think your right to own a gun is a god given right or a constitutional right?

[Sinfix_15]

What if the second amendment was repealed? Do you think your right to own a gun is a god given right or a constitutional right?

I dont believe in God, but i feel we all have the fundamental right to defend ourselves. i shouldnt have to rely on someone else to protect me. Nobody can give me my life back if someone takes it from me, therefor nobody should make a decision for me based on my safety.

I was watching Piers Morgan the other night and realized just how out of touch with society he and the rest of the media are. He said, in response to a question about gun ownership preventing home invasions " so we should just give everyone and gun and let them kill anyone who tries to burglarize their house ".....

and i thought........ yes... absolutely.................................

If someone breaks into my home while im here, they will be killed. They deserve to be killed. Every time some idiot does something stupid with a gun the media has a fire storm and starts up about gun control. Why dont they report about the 8,000 home invasions that happen a day in the united states or that 1 in 5 homes will experience a burglary based on statistics. The police presence is not enough and never will be enough to be at every place all the time. People have the fundamental right to defend themselves. 60% of all rapes happen during home invasion. In my own personal experience, me owning a gun prevented my fiance from being raped and/or murdered by an attempted home invasion. They should make every supporter of gun control move into a house in downtown atlanta and put a sign in their front yard that says "i do not own any guns".

[David88vert]

They should make every supporter of gun control move into a house in downtown atlanta and put a sign in their front yard that says "i do not own any guns".

Gun control yard sign - snopes.com

[Sinfix_15]

Gun control yard sign - snopes.com

that is epic. Made my day

[bu villain]

I dont believe in God, but i feel we all have the fundamental right to defend ourselves.

I think most people would agree with the right to defend yourself. However, most would not agree that society shouldn't be able to place any controls or safeguards on things which may be used in the name of self-defense. We all draw the line in different places.

[Sinfix_15]

I think most people would agree with the right to defend yourself. However, most would not agree that society shouldn't be able to place any controls or safeguards on things which may be used in the name of self-defense. We all draw the line in different places.

We live in a country controlled by a government that has enough bombs to destroy the planet we live on, that sells billions of dollars of guns to conflict nations a year, that spends more than 50% of our taxes on military and they want to tell me that my AR15 is not suitable for self defense.

[bu villain]

We live in a country controlled by a government that has enough bombs to destroy the planet we live on, that sells billions of dollars of guns to conflict nations a year, that spends more than 50% of our taxes on military and they want to tell me that my AR15 is not suitable for self defense.

I don't understand your argument. How does having a huge national military translate into private citizens needing AR-15s? If anything, our huge standing army is a reason you don't need an AR-15.

[David88vert]

What if the second amendment was repealed? Do you think your right to own a gun is a god given right or a constitutional right?

It is a Constitutional right, and would make criminals out of millions. You might possibley see another revolution out of it though.

[David88vert]

the whole point of this thread isnt to stop gun massacres, its to close LOOP HOLES IN THE SECURITY OF SELLING USED FIREARMS.

Or we can wait for straw purchases to start showing up in gun massacres and THEN we can talk about it :P

Cost vs benefit.
It will be extremely costly to upgrade systems (hardware and software), hire additional staff, etc. What is the benefit to the American people (where the money will have to come from)? Since they won't be any safer, why should they foot the bill?