Georgia passes drug testing for welfare bill...

[Vteckidd]

What if they changed the wording to "you must submit to a drug screen to apply for benefits ".

That way the state isn't picking and choosing. Or if you're convicted of a drug related offense your lose benefits.

What about that? Shift responsibility to the individual, not the state?

[Browning151]

What if they changed the wording to "you must submit to a drug screen to apply for benefits ".
That way the state isn't picking and choosing.

I'm not sure that changes much.

Or if you're convicted of a drug related offense your lose benefits.

What about that? Shift responsibility to the individual, not the state?

I can completely get behind this. I would also think maybe a "tiered" system could be implemented; 1st offense 6 month suspension. 2nd offense 1 year suspension. 3rd offense permanent suspension of benefits, or something similar.

[BanginJimmy]

In the case of employment drug screenings it ultimately comes down to an individual's decision whether to have drug screenings or not. In this case it's the govt. Since they've laid out a set of laws for themselves and everyone to adhere to (the constitution) that's where the legality is concerned. It's the same reason cops can't brethalyze you, or take something thats yours without following proper procedure.

How is it NOT an individuals decision whether or not to ask me and you to pay for their lifestyle?

If they added that judicial warrants must be issued every time they test you, it wouldn't be an issue.

Or they can just add a stipulation that a drug test is required as part of the application process.

What it does do is infringes on already established constitutional rights.

Please cite where the Constitution says you have a right to welfare money.

there's no accurate test out.

Wrong. Many of the simple litmus strips are over 95% accurate. That is more accurate than a field sobriety test which can be the justification for a breathalizer.

How do you test for marijuana?

Or cocaine? Or heroin? Or Meth?

Wrong again. There are litmus strips, there are individual cups and there are mass batch tests. All with well over 95% accuracy.

The mass batch tests are the cheapest. Those test require a minimum PPM reading (depending on the number of samples) to come back as a hit. If the lab tests a batch of 100 samples and gets a hit, they go back and test each individual sample to find the dirty one(s). This style of testing has a built in redundancy that makes a false positive nearly impossible.

Or if you're convicted of a drug related offense your lose benefits.

I agree completely. I would go so far to say you are not allowed welfare if convicted of any felony within the previous 10 years.