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[BanginJimmy]

Either we need to accept allowing the poor to die in the streest by refusing medical treatment or there needs to be some program that is available to them. Just no more grey area.

I do believe we can reform welfare, food stamps and other public assistance by putting limits on how long someone can be on the government's tit and we can come up with the money to help pay for their healthcare program.

If people know their welfare is going to run out after a certain time they will be much more inclined to learn the skills needed to support themselves.

As it is now, welfare is unlimited and benefits are growing. Mother, with a min wage job, and 3 kids on various welfare programs has more monthly disposable income than that same family making 60k a year. There is a serious problem with that scenario.

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[TIGERJC]

If people know their welfare is going to run out after a certain time they will be much more inclined to learn the skills needed to support themselves.

As it is now, welfare is unlimited and benefits are growing. Mother, with a min wage job, and 3 kids on various welfare programs has more monthly disposable income than that same family making 60k a year. There is a serious problem with that scenario.

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I agree, still can't believe I would ever say I agree with you. 2-4 years limit, 4 years is enough time to better yourself. After 4 years you're on your own, sink or swim. What is amazing about most people, is that when times get tough their survival instincts kick in and people who haven't worked a day in their life will soon take any job to put food in their mouth.

[Browning151]

I agree, still can't believe I would ever say I agree with you. 2-4 years limit, 4 years is enough time to better yourself. After 4 years you're on your own, sink or swim. What is amazing about most people, is that when times get tough their survival instincts kick in and people who haven't worked a day in their life will soon take any job to put food in their mouth.

It's sometimes shocking when you get down to the base of some issues that those on the right and left don't actually differ all that much isn't it? The question isn't should we help those at the bottom, we can all agree that sometimes people need help. But where that help stops and people must depend on themselves I think is where the differences begin to come in. That old adage "teach a man to fish" always comes to mind for me. Continually providing for someone does nothing more than make them dependent, teaching someone to provide for themselves turns them into a productive person. I've got no problem with helping people, but there needs to be limits and requirements to receiving those benefits. Should we require those on public assistance to be enrolled in job training programs or something to that effect? Should we place a definite time limit on those benefits? Those are areas I think the left a right differ. I saw this clip earlier, and it sort of shocked me to hear someone from the left say that the "welfare society" that the left has been largely responsible for is beginning to cost them, it's a little long but interesting nonetheless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=J_9J5cJwkLU