What Happend to Conservatives?

[bu villain]

I think the GOP is very much at a critical juncture. The religious base is trying to pull their focus towards social issues when they should be focusing on fiscal responsibility and effective government (not non-existant government). This internal tug of war is causing the "moderate republican" to be a dying if not already extinct breed. There are some very important trends going on that they need to accept.

- The fastest growing ethnic group is latino
- The fastest growing religious group is non-religious
- Support for gay rights is growing every year
- A majority of the country supports abortion in certain circumstances
- The elderly are increasingly relying on social security and medicare

Romney is actually quite moderate if you look at his record in Mass but because he has to pretend to be super conservative in order to make it out of the primaries. Basically, there is no way to win the republican primaries without severely hurting your chances in the general election.

[Browning151]

I think the GOP is very much at a critical juncture. The religious base is trying to pull their focus towards social issues when they should be focusing on fiscal responsibility and effective government (not non-existant government). This internal tug of war is causing the "moderate republican" to be a dying if not already extinct breed. There are some very important trends going on that they need to accept.

- The fastest growing ethnic group is latino
- The fastest growing religious group is non-religious
- Support for gay rights is growing every year
- A majority of the country supports abortion in certain circumstances
- The elderly are increasingly relying on social security and medicare

Romney is actually quite moderate if you look at his record in Mass but because he has to pretend to be super conservative in order to make it out of the primaries. Basically, there is no way to win the republican primaries without severely hurting your chances in the general election.

I think that's pretty spot on. I wonder if we may begin seeing the Libertarian base grow more over the next couple of election cycles after 2012. It seems to me that more and more people are fed up with the current establishment.

[Vteckidd]

I think that's pretty spot on. I wonder if we may begin seeing the Libertarian base grow more over the next couple of election cycles after 2012. It seems to me that more and more people are fed up with the current establishment.

the conservative base and christian right fuck it up for everyone.

I could LIVE with Romney being president only because he would repeal obamacare and probably do something related to taxes to get the economy going again.

Santorum i would be really scared because he is a religious nutbag.

RP is far too isolationist, and i find it funny blank would even like him considering RP would decimate all his little social programs he likes. RP stance on cutting 1+ trillion from the budget would throw the poor to the wolves.

Newt has the best ideas, but hes too undisciplined. He has far too many crazy ideas as really good ideas. if he could just stick to simple things he would be much better.

The Liberals are in just as much trouble though make no mistake about it. They have the OCCUPY retards to deal with (not the ones that are against bailouts but the vast majority of the movement that is about total anarchy and handouts), they have plummeting job growth and GDP , rising gas prices, host of problems to deal with. Obama isnt serious about doing anything to fix anything wrong unless it means a massive govt spending program.