Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
False. The bailouts have failed. if they didnt, then unemployment wouldnt be 9+% , GDP wouldnt be at .0001% growth LOL

I mean i guess it depends on what your definition of success is. If you mean it prevented the overnight collapse of our financial system and propped up BAD businesses, then yes, that is true. But i dont view that as a success. I view it as a failure of capitalism.
That is exactly my point. Who defined success as being unemployment under 9%? It's certainly not my definition of success. To me, the purpose of it was to prevent the collapse of the financial system which as you admit, did not collapse. So that is a success under the terms of its primary goal. Should we ever let ourselves get in that position again? No, of course not.

Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
wrong again. the people who are protesting the horrible relationship between wallstreet and govt, who are against wall street buying votes and lobbying, i agree 10000000% with. I DISAGREE with protesting wall street over it, because its not their fault. Its Washingtons. they should be focusing on them, because that is where the policy changes need to be made.
You don't think wallstreet (Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Behr Sterns etc) had anything to do with the financial collapse? You don't think people should be upset by that?