Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
Ok. It's clear that you don't want an intelligent discussion, from this statement alone. In every language, at least in the English language anyway, protesting is the same word and means the same thing as protesting. I don't know how I could explain that any better. It doesn't matter if you do it in 1960 or in 2011. Protesting is protesting is protesting. Both subjects are related. That's it.
So relating my comments to a completely different situation is intelligent discussion, but calling you out on it is not?





Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
LOL. Ok. I'll concede that one. I guess getting money is getting money, no matter how many people or nations you have to screw up in the process
If you dont like my definition of greed, where is yours? You failed to comment on that part of my response.


Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
You completely overlooked my point, but ok, I'll address your new point. I sold lemonade for a living, and then patented a revolutionary new way to sweeten it, and then gave it away for free, I was successful in revolutionizing my industry and made zero dollars from it. This is aside from the success I had selling the lemonade.
You made zero dollars from the patent, but you made money off the sweetener by selling the lemonade. Your success was simply selling the lemonade. It is possible to be successful doing more than 1 thing you know.


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$70 seems to be about the going rate for a decent insurance plan. I would say I'm a person of average health. If I had this plan, I would spend about 900 bucks a year, and if I'm lucky I'll make one visit to the Gen. Practioner. $100. Then 5 years from now after I've spent $5000 on HI, my company decides to switch carriers, and a week later I take a nasty spill down some stairs and break my leg, some carriers don't cover major medical for a year, but what about what I've already paid? Where did that all go? Healthcare needs major revamping. I'll give it to the president for trying more than the previous presidents before him, but it's just not enough.
employer run health coverage typically doesnt have the same pre-existing condition stipulations as individually purchased. Also, I have never heard of an employer provided coverage having any type of wait time for full coverage. just your typical 3 month probation period. You could also get your major medical plan and supplant it with a health savings account to further reduce your out of pocket costs.

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The quality of care is not lessened by a socialized system. Actually that's not true anywhere. Look it up, ask some people in Canada.
the same Canadians that come to the US for major medical care, such as cancer, if they can afford it?

It seems cancer survival rates are FAR higher in the US than the socialized medical systems of Europe.
http://factcheck.org/2009/08/cancer-...d-conclusions/



Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
And I'm going to assume from your hostility to the word "socialism", that you actually mean "National Socialism", or you mean "communism". All of which are different concepts which conservatives and the Tea Party easily get mixed up. It is quite obvious that unbridled capitalism (which is where the US is heading) is not working out. "Socialism", which you and I benefit from every single day, whether you want to believe it or not, is a great idea, when it's balanced. Capitalism is also a great idea, when it's balanced. But as of late, that balance is becoming unchecked. This is where our problems lie. So to bluntly answer your question, socialism has worked for the United States. If it hasn't worked for you, feel free to stop using public highways, MARTA, US post offices, public schools, and public libraries.
Socialism is govt control over the means of production. Basicly a centrally planned economy where the govt selects winners and losers among businesses. I'm sure that wont lead to a bit of corruption.

Maybe you should recheck your definition, if you believe socialism has worked. As to your point about capitalism, the problem right now is crony capitalism. Business owners buying politicians for special breaks and no bid contracts.

BTW, I avoid the post office whenever possible and I wouldnt sentence my kids, if I had any, to public schools.



You never asnwered my point about greed though.