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    Default Andrew Britefart is a race baiting idiot.

    I guess you have all been following the Britefart/Sherrod controversy. Looks like Andy Britefart about to get served a cold glass of "shut up juice" just like Mark Williams.

    The cliffs of the story are:

    Yesterday:
    1.) Brietfart puts out a video of Shirley Sherrod, an African American employee of the Dept. of Agriculture, speaking to an NAACP group. In his video she claims to be making remarks about how she withheld assistance from a farmer because he was white.
    2.) Fox runs the story without fact-checking.
    3.) Obama and Ag Secretary Vilsack fire Sherrod immediately without investigating the allegations, via text-message.
    4.) NAACP issues a statement condemning Sherrod for her actions.

    Last night / today:

    1.) "Liberal media" fact-checks Britefart's hack-job videos. Finds the incident Sherrod was talking about happened in 1986. And that she was not working for the Dept. of AG at that time but a non-profit organization. And they find that she actually helped the farmer. And that her speech was about how she overcame her own prejudices.
    2.) They find the farmer in the incident and he goes on Larry King and says he's actually good friends with Sherrod and credits her with helping save his farm.
    3.) Whitehouse and Vilsack investigate and issue apology via press sec'y Robert Gibbs.
    4.) Britefart forced to backtrack, make excuses, and otherwise play down the fact that he got pwned by the press.


    That being said I am ashamed of the Obama administration for demanding Sherrod's resignation without actually investigating the claims Britefart and Faux News made against her. And the NAACP too, for that matter. She was speaking against reverse racism at one of their events and they still condemned her without reviewing the whole tape. I guess this shows that they take allegations of reverse racism very seriously, but that they also have a knee-jerk approach to handling it. From the time Britefart put out the story to the time Sherrod was asked to resign was only a matter of hours. Both the Whitehouse and the NAACP should know by now that the name Andrew Breitbart is a red flag for "bullshit".

    The really sad part of the story is that Sherrod lost her career because of Britefart's race baiting. Its obvious if you look at the whole tape that Sherrod is speaking out against reverse racism. Britefart has backtracked and said that his editing of the tape its not to show her "racism" as it is about the people in the audience "cheering", but I'm not buying it. for 2 reasons:

    1.) During the part of the tape where Britefart says people are "cheering," Sherrod talks about how the farmer tries to prove he's "better than her". She talks about how we "talked down" to her. The audience, which seem to be mostly older Black women who lived during Jim Crow, seem to be empathizing with her more than they are cheering. Like in a church when someone tells a story and you hear "testify!".

    2.) Even if they were cheering because of "reverse racism," Sherrod's story is about how she overcame her prejudices and helped the farmer. She said that she has a lifelong friendship with the guy. They interviewed him on CNN where he could have refuted her claims but he didn't, he backed her up. If the audience is "cheering" her during that part of her story because they are "reverse racists" as Britefart claims, then wouldn't the latter part of her story, the part about overcoming one's own prejudices, be exactly what they needed to hear? Why would Britefart seek to vilify someone like that? Especially if he's supposed to be crusading against "reverse racism"?

    The answer is because he's not crusading against anything, he's just race-bating to increase his own notoriety. Unfortunately for him the few good reporters left in the "liberal media" were there to refute his bullshit before it became yesterday's news.

    Britefart's credibility is already damaged by the multiple courts that have ruled against him over the ACORN scandal and subpoenaed the entire tapes as well as law enforcement officers who corroborate that ACORN notified the authorities after each of those videos. And O'Queefe was sentenced to 3yrs. probation for his role in the illegal wiretapping.

    So yeah, Britefart is pretty much dead in the water at this point.

    All thats left now is for Obama to apologize to Sherrod personally, which will probably happen sometime today or tomorrow as this is kind of a big deal.

    Anyway, to quote Sarah Palin: Pls, Refudiate.

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    As usual, you got your facts wrong. Breitbart played the video he had access to, just like everyone else. The NAACP had the rest of the video and it took them a day or so to release the rest of the video.

    A story from biggovernment.com with the whole story.

    http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/20...th-their-time/


    Maybe next time YOU will take the time to check your facts, though I do doubt it.

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    Britefart is known to manipulate videos and such. I mean he did it once and got exactly the results he wanted so why would he have any qualms about doing it again?

    Also, if Britefart is the paragon of ethics you claim he is, why would he not demand that his source provide the entire video? Since it was a NAACP event why would he or one of his "operatives" not ask the NAACP for the entire video? Its not like the NAACP is stingy with that sort of stuff.

    Your article from Britefart didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. Yes, Britefart is involved in several sham "stories" involving race-baiting. I didn't need an article from his site to tell me that.

    Bottom line: Britefart is unethical scum. Hopefully Mrs. Sherrod will hand him a "Big Lawsuit".

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    i can manipulate videos too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck View Post
    i can manipulate videos too.
    I hear Britefart is hiring now that his main "operative" O'Queef is on probation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Britefart is known to manipulate videos and such. I mean he did it once and got exactly the results he wanted so why would he have any qualms about doing it again?
    Source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Also, if Britefart is the paragon of ethics you claim he is, why would he not demand that his source provide the entire video? Since it was a NAACP event why would he or one of his "operatives" not ask the NAACP for the entire video? Its not like the NAACP is stingy with that sort of stuff.
    A better question, since the NAACP had the entire video to start with, why did they come out and issue a statement against Sherod?

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Your article from Britefart didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. Yes, Britefart is involved in several sham "stories" involving race-baiting. I didn't need an article from his site to tell me that.
    Links?

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Bottom line: Britefart is unethical scum. Hopefully Mrs. Sherrod will hand him a "Big Lawsuit".
    The real bottom line, you got caught once again not knowing more than you read on mediamatters and msnbc.

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    I posted about the ACORN "scandal" being a sham and O'Queefe being busted for illegally wiretapping Sen. Mary Landrieu's office. You can read it on Wikipedia for Christ's sake.

    What do you mean when you say:

    Quote Originally Posted by baggin Jimmy
    since the NAACP had the entire video to start with, why did they come out and issue a statement against Sherod?
    The NAACP did issue a statement against Sherrod. Which they then retracted because she was speaking AGAINST reverse racism. I'm a bit miffed that they didn't recognize that she was speaking against reverse racism at THEIR event, and that they reacted in a knee-jerk fashion. But at least it shows that they do take allegations of reverse racism very seriously.

    Thats the thing that rubs me wrong about the whole "Oh Noes reverse racism!!1!" debate, Rushbo and all his bagger minion keep crying about how Blacks should come forward and acknowledge reverse racism. And then when one Black person does, and tells an honest story about how she OVERCAME her prejudices, the right wing media fucking crucify her. They don't want to have an open dialogue on race, they just want to silence Black people. To hear Rushbo, Glenn Beck, and their followers on this forum tell it the only role of Blacks in the debate over race issues should be to capitulate to the demands of right wing media and speak only when called on. They are saying that the White people are the real victims.

    Boo Hoo Hoo. Lets all cry a little tear for poor Glenn Beck and Rushbo. I really can't muster any sympathy for them so I'm gonna go to the store to get some Vick's Vapo Rub.

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    Jimmy, the fact that you defend him in any way shows your obvious bias and discounts the credibility that you bring to the forum. That was obvious what they were trying to achieve, anyone who doesn't see it only do so because they choose to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Jimmy, the fact that you defend him in any way shows your obvious bias and discounts the credibility that you bring to the forum. That was obvious what they were trying to achieve, anyone who doesn't see it only do so because they choose to.
    Would you mind explaining why? My opinion doesnt align properly with yours so I have no credibility? You sound like the typical Obama bot and the "You dont agree with Obama so you are a racist" excuses. I could just as easily say that just because you agree with all of Obama's socialist policies your political opinion has no credibility. At least in my case I would have proof that socialism doesnt work.


    I dont know where, and I really dont care how Breitbart got the video, but he did what anyone on either side of the arguement would do, he ran with it because it fell in line with his ideology. You do the exact same things with video clips you find on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Jimmy, the fact that you defend him in any way shows your obvious bias and discounts the credibility that you bring to the forum. That was obvious what they were trying to achieve, anyone who doesn't see it only do so because they choose to.
    You do realize the NAACP itself had nearly the same knee-jerk reaction right? From reading this thread I saw where it was asked that Blender back up the rest of his claims of race baiting with no response. I am by no means defending Breitbart, as I don't follow him or any of the mainstream talking heads for either side, just simply wondering where the back up of such claims is.

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    Seriously its one of those things of, the situation is so obvious even if I explained it, it will not make things any clearer because the edited video versus the unedited video is clear enough. I have said it to liberal and conservative friends, you can edit ANY video to make a person appear a certain way. Michael Moore does it, Fox News does it, but what Breitbart did was singled out an individual and caused her to lose her position. I fault those who reacted just as much as I do Breitbart but in the end he posted the video on his site yet wants to be taken seriously as a journalist. That is not journalism and to give him any kind of pass on the situation only continues the downward cycle of News Reporting that we are subject to today.. right or left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Seriously its one of those things of, the situation is so obvious even if I explained it, it will not make things any clearer because the edited video versus the unedited video is clear enough. I have said it to liberal and conservative friends, you can edit ANY video to make a person appear a certain way. Michael Moore does it, Fox News does it, but what Breitbart did was singled out an individual and caused her to lose her position. I fault those who reacted just as much as I do Breitbart but in the end he posted the video on his site yet wants to be taken seriously as a journalist. That is not journalism and to give him any kind of pass on the situation only continues the downward cycle of News Reporting that we are subject to today.. right or left.
    That video being edited in the first place was wrong, correct. Whoever did it to begin with was wrong, whoever released it was wrong, the NAACP was wrong for it's reaction and Breitbart was wrong for posting it without research. Like you said, Moore does it, Fox does it, everyone slices and dices their own slant and most people just hear whatever their favorite media figure says and go with it. This is why our electorate is in the mindset that it is, no one reads and pays attention they just hear sound bytes and thats where they get their news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning151 View Post
    From reading this thread I saw where it was asked that Blender back up the rest of his claims of race baiting with no response. is.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40135.html

    "He knew exactly what effect that would have on not only — he knew what effect that would have on the conservative, racist people he's dealing with," Sherrod said. "That's why I started getting the hate mail. And that's why I started getting the hate calls."

    "He got the effect he was looking for," she said.

    He's trying to explain away valid claims of racism within the Tea Party by trying to show an imagined "racism" on the other side that does not exist.

    The real question here is not whether Britefart is right or wrong. We know he's wrong. The question is: Is he racist, or just incompetent?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40135.html

    "He knew exactly what effect that would have on not only — he knew what effect that would have on the conservative, racist people he's dealing with," Sherrod said. "That's why I started getting the hate mail. And that's why I started getting the hate calls."

    "He got the effect he was looking for," she said.

    He's trying to explain away valid claims of racism within the Tea Party by trying to show an imagined "racism" on the other side that does not exist.

    The real question here is not whether Britefart is right or wrong. We know he's wrong. The question is: Is he racist, or just incompetent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Britefart is involved in several sham "stories" involving race-baiting. I didn't need an article from his site to tell me that.
    The link you just posted relates to the Sherrod incident, where are the several other race baiting stories? I don't disagree that the video was wrong, I just want to see you back that statement up since I don't follow Brietbart at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning151 View Post
    The link you just posted relates to the Sherrod incident, where are the several other race baiting stories? I don't disagree that the video was wrong, I just want to see you back that statement up since I don't follow Brietbart at all.
    There arent any. It was just another of his MANY baseless claims.

    Blender really is a very hateful person. He hates anyone more successful than he is. He hates anyone that doesnt want a nanny state. He hates anyone that believes in capitalism. The list goes on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Seriously its one of those things of, the situation is so obvious even if I explained it, it will not make things any clearer because the edited video versus the unedited video is clear enough. I have said it to liberal and conservative friends, you can edit ANY video to make a person appear a certain way. Michael Moore does it, Fox News does it, but what Breitbart did was singled out an individual and caused her to lose her position. I fault those who reacted just as much as I do Breitbart but in the end he posted the video on his site yet wants to be taken seriously as a journalist. That is not journalism and to give him any kind of pass on the situation only continues the downward cycle of News Reporting that we are subject to today.. right or left.

    Take a look at the journo-list then you can talk about conservative media. Many members of the mainstream media and liberal bloggers conspired to hide the glaringly obvious faults of Obama and to smear anyone that questioned Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    There arent any. It was just another of his MANY baseless claims.

    Blender really is a very hateful person. He hates anyone more successful than he is. He hates anyone that doesnt want a nanny state. He hates anyone that believes in capitalism. The list goes on and on.
    I don't expect that there will be any solid proof posted. I know next to nothing about Breitbart, but I'm pretty sure that Blender won't be able to come up with anything solid to back up his claims.

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    Lets talk about Biggovernment.com (BrietFART's site) contributor Kevin Pezzi, who pretty much freely admits to being a racist, among other things...

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008050030

    Quote Originally Posted by article
    In two posts on Andrew Breitbart's BigGovernment website, Dr. Kevin Pezzi smears Shirley Sherrod as a racist, claiming that "if someone deserves to be put on a pedestal for overcoming racism, it isn't Sherrod." The racism criticism is ironic coming from Pezzi, who has repeatedly used racial epithets like "Japs" and "Chinks," and claimed Native and African Americans should have been grateful for their subjugation by whites.

    Pezzi, who says that "Breitbart asked me to write for BigGovernment.com," has a peculiar self-described history. Pezzi claims to be responsible for "over 850 inventions" and schemes such as a "magic bullet" for cancer, a "robotic chef," and sexual inventions like "penile enlargement techniques" and "ways to tighten the vagina" (because "men like women with tight vaginas"). Pezzi has started multiple websites, from term paper helpers to a sexual help site that answers "your questions about sexual attraction, pleasure, performance, and libido" (Pezzi is qualified to do so because "No doctor in the world knows more about sexual pleasure than I do").
    I also think theres a racist element to BriteFART's targeting of ACORN. I mean how dare an organization attempt to empower low and middle income people in areas that are predominantly inner city and African American? How dare THOSE PEOPLE participate in the democratic process by registering to vote. Notice also that the ACORN offices targeted in the videos are in cities with large African American populations: Baltimore, D.C., and Philly. I assume BriteFART's amateur hacks were too scared to go to Detroit.

    And then theres the fact that James O'queefe has been seen at White Supermacist rallies:

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...e_nationalists
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    His right-wing admirers don't seem to mind that O’Keefe's short but storied career has been defined by a series of political stunts shot through with racial resentment. Now an activist organization that monitors hate groups has produced a photo of O'Keefe at a 2006 conference on "Race and Conservatism" that featured leading white nationalists. The photo, first published Jan. 30 on the Web site of the anti-racism group One People's Project, shows O’Keefe at the gathering, which was so controversial even the ultra-right Leadership Institute, which employed O'Keefe at the time, withdrew its backing. O'Keefe's fellow young conservative provocateur Marcus Epstein organized the event, which gave anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism an opportunity to share their grievances and plans to make inroads in the GOP.
    Also, theres the time O'Queefe tried to entrap Planned Parenthood by offering to donete $$ with the stipulation that it only be used to abort Black babies...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O...od_controversy

    Again, BriteFART and his lackies like Pezzi and O'QUEEFE are nothing more than race-baiting idiots.

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    You are actually going to use mediamatters as a source? Do you also use the white house website for your news on the economy?

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    You question the source, but can you refute it?

    Also, BriteFART, eye of Newt Gingrich, and others are going to be at an "anti Ground Zero Mosque" rally in NYC on 9-11. Not that them being against the right of the property owners to open whatever the hell kind of establishment they want itsn't bad enough because

    1.) Aren't they supposed to be "free market"?
    2.) The were over 100 Muslim victims of 9/11, and there were Muslims among the responders. Muslims are as American ans everyone else
    3.) The site isn't even on G-0 its 2 blocks away
    4.) There is already a Mosque in that area and its been there since 1970 (just shows this "outrage" is fake)

    The guest speakers at this event are:

    1.) Pamela Gellar, BriteFART contributor and publisher of the "AtlasShrugs" blog. Sounds innocous enough but her credentials also include:

    defending war criminals in the Bosnian Genocide:
    http://www.chasingevil.org/2008/08/p...st-denier.html

    Support of fascist Neo-Nazi parties in Europe:
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti..._Fascist_Group

    Blaming the holocaust on Muslims:
    http://biggovernment.com/pgeller/201...st-is-looming/

    Paypal (as evil as they are) called her site a "hate site" and cut off her account because it violated their terms of service:
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...te-speech.html

    Involvement with skinhead groups such as "Stop Islamization Of Europe":

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/ne...f-america.html
    We have now formed a new board for SIOA. The new board of SIOA is: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Stephen Gash and Anders Gravers.

    The leaders of SIOA are Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4679482,00.html
    There are conflicting reports as to which group was the aggressor. News agency AFP reported that many of the SIOE supporters were skinheads.

    The anti-Islamic SIOE protesters - rallying under the banner "Racism is the lowest form of human stupidity, but Islamophobia is the height of common sense" - had earlier vowed to protest peacefully.

    London authorities had feared violent outbursts on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks following clashes a week earlier at a rally against Islamic fundamentalism held by a right-wing group in the central English city of Birmingham. More than 30 people were arrested in that incident.



    2.) Also appearing at the event will be Dutch parliamentarian and ultra-Right fascist Geert Wilders.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europ...-Geert-Wilders

    The biggest winner, however, is the flamboyant and extremist politician Geert Wilders, whose Freedom Party platform to ban the Koran and mosque-building defied election polling data and jacked him from 9 to 23 seats. Mr. Wilders’s rise as leader of what is now the No. 3 party in the Netherlands is considered a bellwether of a surlier sentiment in a country traditionally tolerant but now anxious over Muslim minorities.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...nd-netherlands
    many of those who voted for the party are "anxious" about being identified with it, not least because, despite his claims that his party is conventionally right wing, Wilders has visibly attracted neo-fascists as supporters. In doing so he has imported a brash new rhetorical style, quickly reactive to events, that has shaken up Dutch politics.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Dutch-MP.html
    Mr Wilders claims that the Koran “calls on Muslims to oppress, persecute or kill Christians, Jews, dissidents and non-believers, to beat and rape women and to establish an Islamic state by force”. "Ban this wretched book like Mein Kampf is banned!,” he wrote in yesterday's De Volkskrant newspaper.

    So yeah, Andy BriteFART and Newt Greengooch are cavorting with known racists. BriteFART has at least 3 racists on his payoll, O' Queefe, Pezzy, and Geller.

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    So you really dont have a respectable source?

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    So the Christian Science Monitor, the Telegraph (England's biggest newspaper), the Guardian (England's #3 newspaper), and Salon (one of the longest running and most viewed online publications), and Deutsche Welle (which is Germany's equivalent of PBS) are not "reputable sources"? Not to mention I quoted material from the racist Geller's own site as well as her posts on Andy Britefart's site.

    I guess its not good enough for you unless it comes from a known slanderer like BriteFART.




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