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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    hmmm. Do I detect a bit of irony?


    After a year and a half, everything bad is still all Bush's fault. Obviously is couldnt be Obama's fault though. He is the messiah sent here to bring this country to the wonderful world of socialism.
    So Obama was put into office to fix all of the shit Bush fucked up? Or was he put in office to struggle with the mess while keeping as many of the sheeple happy while corporations continue to run this country.

    Fuck a Legislative branch, fuck a Judicial branch, and fuck an Executive branch. The 3 real branches of the gov't are Corporations, the Military, and Hollywood. Corporations for the $$$, Military so they can't fuck with our $$$, and Hollywood/Media to keep you all distracted from whats actually being done. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja View Post
    So Obama was put into office to fix all of the shit Bush fucked up? Or was he put in office to struggle with the mess while keeping as many of the sheeple happy while corporations continue to run this country.
    Obama himself said he was going to fix washington. The reality of it is that he has done all of the bad things washington is known for and nothing positive. Not a single person in this contry is better off with Obama at the helm and many millions of us are worse off. National debt is out of control and the US is quickly heading in Greece's direction. No leadership at all on the illegals pouring into the country. No leadship, but plenty of finger pointing, on the gulf oil mess, MASSIVE new, unpaid for, entitlements. I can go on and on about what Obama is fucking up.

    Why dont you name a single positive thing he has done in his 16 or so months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Obama himself said he was going to fix washington. The reality of it is that he has done all of the bad things washington is known for and nothing positive. Not a single person in this contry is better off with Obama at the helm and many millions of us are worse off. National debt is out of control and the US is quickly heading in Greece's direction. No leadership at all on the illegals pouring into the country. No leadship, but plenty of finger pointing, on the gulf oil mess, MASSIVE new, unpaid for, entitlements. I can go on and on about what Obama is fucking up.

    Why dont you name a single positive thing he has done in his 16 or so months.
    Excuse me, this is a post about BP and nuclear weapons. Not Obama and Bush.

    But while we're speaking of these things. Bush (the War President) that found WMD's in countries that possessed no WMD's (that we still haven't found, would u believe) and lead us to believe we are releasing a country from struggles of life and also a country that has not attacked America in its history; as a terrioristic country set this all up. Clearly we are fighting for Oil and not for the reasons that we were all told in the beginning. Dragging all of us into a false war for his pockets (and others, corps and hedge funds.)

    Regardless of the policies originally posted in Obama's election speech and the strive for revolution within the walls of our system. A man can only do what the people allow him. We asked for change, he is trying to change things, now we are all crying over the new set of ideals based either solely from his mind or based upon examples of other countries systems. We all want instant gratification and quick fixes, not commitment.

    Back to Bush. Wasnt our original enemy Afganistan (forgive my spelling)? We know Osama and his crew were within that particular countries borders (couldn't seem to find the person responsible for 2700 deaths and taking down 2 landmarks in America and them somehow detroying WTC building #7). Werent we sent to resolve our original conflict? Please tell me how we ended up in Iraq or how Saddam had WMD's later in the years of Bush's Presidency but however, in the beginning, Saddam was of no threat. And why the fuk we are there fighting for a lie and not the truth? I mean, as a regular person, not emotionally stressed, I see a glare coming off of this whole situation.

    If Obama is at fault for trying to clear issues in the country, then he is. But you cannot blame him for the mockery that we are involved and fully committed to now that Bush has had his time in office and fun with our $$. Whether Obama fixes this or not we now have to stand up as a country of people, not a bunch of scared bitches and resolve our issues abroad and at home. Common sense should tell a reasonable person that we are battling for nothing but Oil.

    Chalk all this blame game crap u "political" people spit. Obama is in office because we elected him to clean up, he cant clean up because we the people are denying his ideas, probably because we are actually scared of change. Obama therefore will not be able to accomplish much of anything without cheating like the Bush Admin did. Like passing a bill attached to another bill and renaming or shuffling it into a cluster of other bills thought up in the late PM hours, passing in the early AM hours.

    We elected Bush (actually Gore till Fox said no) for whatever reason, we got hit, we fought back. Completed (supposedly, u remember that announcement, on a ship by Bush and the banner stating "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED." We never found Osama, we killed Saddam, now we're killing people for Oil and calling is a revolution for their country, occupying THEIR country, taking THEIR land, killing THEIR innocent and hating THEM for fighting us.

    I was up to join the USAF and declined because I didnt want to murder people based on a lie from our leader blaming people for things they never did and creating a hostile environment for their children and creating hatred for Americans because we're fuking morons fighting for things that we arent actually fighting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Excuse me, this is a post about BP and nuclear weapons. Not Obama and Bush.
    Talk to the one that brought Obama up about that one. I am simply stating fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    But while we're speaking of these things. Bush (the War President) that found WMD's in countries that possessed no WMD's (that we still haven't found, would u believe)
    Aint hindsight grand. I bet we can find many thousands of bad decisions by presidents when we use it. Look at the facts AT THAT TIME. Saddam was using gas on the kurds. He was threatening to use them on Americans and on Israel.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    and lead us to believe we are releasing a country from struggles of life
    And we have done that. The biggest obstacle we had their was foreign fighters, not Iraqis. You can also add the fact that Iran was supplying them with weapons and intel the entire time.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    and also a country that has not attacked America in its history;
    And that means they were absolutely no threat to us right? Germany has never attacked the US either so I guess you think we should have stayed out of Europe during the '40's.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    as a terrioristic country set this all up.
    Iran, Iraq and Asscrackistan are/were terrorist countries. There is absolutely no way to deny that.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Clearly we are fighting for Oil and not for the reasons that we were all told in the beginning. Dragging all of us into a false war for his pockets (and others, corps and hedge funds.)
    Got any proof of this Mr. Jones?


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Regardless of the policies originally posted in Obama's election speech and the strive for revolution within the walls of our system. A man can only do what the people allow him. We asked for change, he is trying to change things, now we are all crying over the new set of ideals based either solely from his mind or based upon examples of other countries systems. We all want instant gratification and quick fixes, not commitment.
    but he is forcing unwanted changes on everyone outside the beltway. Healthcare, cap and trade, emissions, you name it. The only things he hasnt changed are the backroom deals and bribery that is so prevalent in Washington. According to Pelosi, Reid and Obama, we were going to see a new era of transparancy in Washington, have you ever seen a more secretive Admin ever? How about no lobbiests? Well, that made it almost into Dec. 08 before that just wouldnt do anymore. I could go on, but you get the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Back to Bush. Wasnt our original enemy Afganistan (forgive my spelling)? We knows Osama and his crew were within that particular countries borders? Werent we sent to resolve our original conflict? Please tell me how we ended up in Iraq or how Saddam had WMD's later in the years of Bush's Presidency but however, in the beginning, Saddam was of no threat. And why the fuk we are there fighting for a lie and not the truth.
    Please tun off MSNBC, its rotting what little brain you have. Bin Laden was completely off the radar in Asscrackistan and at the same time Saddam was acting up. You liberals are constantly talking about human rights, yet conveniently ignore the massive human rights violations in Iraq before we went there.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    If Obama is at fault for trying to clear issues in the country, then he is.
    Obama is at fault for compounding all of the issues we have. He hasnt attempted to do anything but grow the govt into every aspect of business and our personal lives. And again, he hasnt cleared anything up.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    But you cannot blame him for the mockery that we are involved and fully committed to now that Bush has had his time in office and fun with our $$.
    If anyone is going crazy with the credit card it is Obama. Bush's largest deficit was about 420B, Obama's first budget weighs in at around 1.4T in deficit spending. I dont count 08-09 budget because no one president is responsible for it. 4x the deficit in a single year. At this pace by the time Obama is out of office we will have added more in 4 years of Obaam than 8 years of Bush. Want to re-examine your comments about who is playing loose with your money?

    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Whether Obama fixes this or not we now have to stand up as a country of people, not a bunch of scared bitches and resolve our issues abroad and at home.
    Funny, liberals held the exact opposite point of view while Bush was in office. Hypocrisy knows no bounds within the liberal brain.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Common sense should tell a reasonable person that we are battling for nothing but Oil.
    Common sense says you have none.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Chalk all this blame game crap u "political" people spit.
    Has Obama done aything BUT blame others for his failures?


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Obama is in office because we elected him to clean up,
    I agree with you there. A more educated electorate would have known he wasnt the right person to do it though.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    he cant clean up because we the people are denying his ideas, probably because we are actually scared of change.
    Change for the sake of change is not a good thing in ANY context. Every change he is pushing hurts the country as a whole. Yes, I actually am scared of his vision for this country. I'm simply not a fan of massive taxes, low quality health care, govt mandates on every facet of my life and on and on.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Obama therefore will not be able to accomplish much of anything without cheating like the Bush Admin did.
    But what happened to changing Washinton? Let me guess, its ok because he isnt Bush or a republican right?

    BTW, where did Bush cheat? I believe the cheater was Clinton.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Like passing a bill attached to another bill and renaming or shuffling it into a cluster of other bills thought up in the late PM hours, passing in the early AM hours.
    That is simply our bass ackwards political system. Highly partisan in all aspects and it has only gotten worse since Obama got into office.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    We elected Bush (actually Gore till Fox said no)
    Actually it was Bush. In this country we have a thing called the electoral college. I dont like the way it is configured, but oh well.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    for whatever reason, we got hit, we fought back.
    We got hit because a sect of a religion thinks all americans should be dead.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    Completed (supposedly, u remember that announcement, on a ship by Bush and the banner stating "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED."
    The plan for after the war phase was truely pathetic. The blame for that starts with the Joint Chiefs and ends with the President.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    We never found Osama,
    If you had ever been to asscrackistan you would know why. We could have used 10 divisions and we would have never found him with anything but pure luck.


    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    now we're killing people for Oil and calling is a revolution for their country, occupying THEIR country, taking THEIR land, killing THEIR innocent and hating THEM for fighting us.
    Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Would you like a tissue?

    If you would like some facts though, you might want to stay off the highly liberal stations. Iraqi's are killing their own civilians. It was mainly foreign fighters armed and equipped by Iran that was targeting Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
    I was up to join the USAF and declined because I didnt want to murder people based on a lie from our leader blaming people for things they never did and creating a hostile environment for their children and creating hatred for Americans because we're fuking morons fighting for things that we arent actually fighting for.
    You really go believe anything John Kerry, Chris Mathews and the rest of the hardcore liberals say dont you? You even use the same key words they do. You really should take a look at the real world. Every third world country hates the US because we are better than them. They are jealous of our freedoms, they are jealous of our wealth. Dont get it confused to be anymore than that. You really should have been around in the Vietnam era. You would ahve fit in perfectly with the hippies and the military bashers and the rest of those pussies.

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