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    I shall interject with some reasonable thoughts, expressed in real terms not politically correct ones, as its obvious that pretty much everyone that commented here hasnt even looked at the law.


    1. Profiling works. I dont care if it isnt politically correct to admit it, but EVERYONE does it. If you are looking for a terrorist, 99.99% of the time, it isnt going to be the balding white guy driving around with his family, its going to be the young middle eastern walking around alone. If you are looking for illegals on the US-Mexico border, I would say to start with the hispanics that dont speak english. Its just common sense, nothing sinister.

    2. Any kind of immigration reform is absolutely useless until the border is locked down. Reagan proved that in the 80's with his amnesty.

    3. If "hispanic leaders" dont like this kind of law, too bad. If they really wanted to lead, they could lead the fight against illegals, not help them commit their crimes. Turn in Coyotes to ICE. Help ICE identify and close down smuggling routes for people and drugs. These things would go a hell of a lot further to helping out the population they are claiming to lead than actively encouraging people to become criminals.

    4. A law is a law. Coming into this country illegally is a violation of the law. It really is that easy. There is no valid excuse for it, and IMO it should be treated like any other law. If someone is renting a house to an illegal, charge them with conspiracy and seize their assets. Someone wants to give them a job? Thats easy too, revoke their business license and change them back taxes along with fines and interest. In the end, make life here for hard for them, they head back to where they came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I shall interject with some reasonable thoughts, expressed in real terms not politically correct ones, as its obvious that pretty much everyone that commented here hasnt even looked at the law.


    1. Profiling works. I dont care if it isnt politically correct to admit it, but EVERYONE does it. If you are looking for a terrorist, 99.99% of the time, it isnt going to be the balding white guy driving around with his family, its going to be the young middle eastern walking around alone. If you are looking for illegals on the US-Mexico border, I would say to start with the hispanics that dont speak english. Its just common sense, nothing sinister.

    2. Any kind of immigration reform is absolutely useless until the border is locked down. Reagan proved that in the 80's with his amnesty.

    3. If "hispanic leaders" dont like this kind of law, too bad. If they really wanted to lead, they could lead the fight against illegals, not help them commit their crimes. Turn in Coyotes to ICE. Help ICE identify and close down smuggling routes for people and drugs. These things would go a hell of a lot further to helping out the population they are claiming to lead than actively encouraging people to become criminals.

    4. A law is a law. Coming into this country illegally is a violation of the law. It really is that easy. There is no valid excuse for it, and IMO it should be treated like any other law. If someone is renting a house to an illegal, charge them with conspiracy and seize their assets. Someone wants to give them a job? Thats easy too, revoke their business license and change them back taxes along with fines and interest. In the end, make life here for hard for them, they head back to where they came from.

    agreed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I shall interject with some reasonable thoughts, expressed in real terms not politically correct ones, as its obvious that pretty much everyone that commented here hasnt even looked at the law.


    1. Profiling works. I dont care if it isnt politically correct to admit it, but EVERYONE does it. If you are looking for a terrorist, 99.99% of the time, it isnt going to be the balding white guy driving around with his family, its going to be the young middle eastern walking around alone. If you are looking for illegals on the US-Mexico border, I would say to start with the hispanics that dont speak english. Its just common sense, nothing sinister.

    2. Any kind of immigration reform is absolutely useless until the border is locked down. Reagan proved that in the 80's with his amnesty.

    3. If "hispanic leaders" dont like this kind of law, too bad. If they really wanted to lead, they could lead the fight against illegals, not help them commit their crimes. Turn in Coyotes to ICE. Help ICE identify and close down smuggling routes for people and drugs. These things would go a hell of a lot further to helping out the population they are claiming to lead than actively encouraging people to become criminals.

    4. A law is a law. Coming into this country illegally is a violation of the law. It really is that easy. There is no valid excuse for it, and IMO it should be treated like any other law. If someone is renting a house to an illegal, charge them with conspiracy and seize their assets. Someone wants to give them a job? Thats easy too, revoke their business license and change them back taxes along with fines and interest. In the end, make life here for hard for them, they head back to where they came from.
    Agreed as well. Political correctness is getting out of control. Change race/ethnicity to age, if you knew that people between the age of 20-25 were resposible for numerous crimes that you were trying to prevent, would you stop people who were obviously 40-50-60 years old and question them? No, absolutely not because you know what your target group is, but if someone screamed age discrimination and profiling we would have to question everyone, it's a waste of time and resources. If you know what group of people are commiting the majority of a certain crime, why not single out that group? Like banginjimmy said, if the hispanic leaders wanted to help their own community they would advocate coming to the US legally, they would work to make the citizenship process more "user friendly" and encourage people to help crack down on human/drug trafficers, that would do much more to promote their agenda and change the image of their movement than encouraging people to break the law.

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