To those of you who said the healthcare bill isn't going to affect us

[tony]

I had responded to that but then had to leave Mike. I've said it before that this plan isn't what Obama proposed originally and either people don't care or afraid to call him out on it.

In my own personal opinion (and it is just my opinion) I think this idea being thrown around that these companies will incur larger expenses with this healthcare plan is a big misnomer, a good majority already offer their employees health insurance (fortune 500) even to domestic partnerships. Small businesses will see tax cuts for insuring their employees to offset the cost. When I look at the this plan I honestly think that no I don't like everything about it but the proposal and the analysis by the CBO leads me to say "lets give it a try." Nothing wrong with scrutinizing policy but it comes to a point where people are just criticizing to criticize. When the other side offers up a better plan I'll support it.

[Bajjani]

I had responded to that but then had to leave Mike. I've said it before that this plan isn't what Obama proposed originally and either people don't care or afraid to call him out on it.

In my own personal opinion (and it is just my opinion) I think this idea being thrown around that these companies will incur larger expenses with this healthcare plan is a big misnomer, a good majority already offer their employees health insurance (fortune 500) even to domestic partnerships. Small businesses will see tax cuts for insuring their employees to offset the cost. When I look at the this plan I honestly think that no I don't like everything about it but the proposal and the analysis by the CBO leads me to say "lets give it a try." Nothing wrong with scrutinizing policy but it comes to a point where people are just criticizing to criticize. When the other side offers up a better plan I'll support it.

Well, my family (my Dad and I) own a company one company that is netting approx $20 million revenue. We offer insurance and pay a portion, also they can pick any family plan etc they want to cover spouse/children. Our costs from this bill are estimated to double if not more.

Small businesses and huge business are going to be fine, imo. They'll have more cost but nothing so obscene it will shut them down. The problem is the companies that make 10-100 million. They'll see harder hits based off the % of their NI.

I could talk out a drastic scenario but it'd be completely nothing more than a off the wall theory of what COULD happen if majority of these mid-sized companies bite the bullet.

[Vteckidd]

I had responded to that but then had to leave Mike. I've said it before that this plan isn't what Obama proposed originally and either people don't care or afraid to call him out on it.

In my own personal opinion (and it is just my opinion) I think this idea being thrown around that these companies will incur larger expenses with this healthcare plan is a big misnomer, a good majority already offer their employees health insurance (fortune 500) even to domestic partnerships. Small businesses will see tax cuts for insuring their employees to offset the cost. When I look at the this plan I honestly think that no I don't like everything about it but the proposal and the analysis by the CBO leads me to say "lets give it a try." Nothing wrong with scrutinizing policy but it comes to a point where people are just criticizing to criticize. When the other side offers up a better plan I'll support it.

I agree that most 50+ employee business offer healthcare already but thats another argument for another day.

Do you REALLY truly believe the CBO? There are major holes in there numbers, like counting the Medicare Savings twice ("saving the medicare 500billion, then spending it to fund healthcare isnt really a "savings") 10 years reducing the deficit by 138 billion (10 years of taxes , 6 years of benefits).

In fact most people say if you look at this program 10 years of taxes 10 years of benefits, you are looking at over 2 trillion in costs, at least 1.5 trillion added to the deficit by 2020.