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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    I never expected him to fix everything in a year. But I would think with 787 billion I would have gotten a lot more than 10% unemployment , indecisions on war in Afghanistan,a healthcare bill that works like a backdoored deal extremely partisan, and no signs of slowing down

    don't you find it funny that 14 months into his first term he talks about creatng jobs and wants a jobs bill? Like 787 billion wasn't enough ? Does he think this 30 billion jobs bill he wants will do anything if his 787 stim 1 has absolutely failed?

    Guys living in a dream world

    lets be REAL here.... 911 didn't have quite the impact on the economy housing bubble did; furthermore 911/katrina and numerous defining events all = FAIL under bush jr term. we all know he got us into a war over BS and it has done nothing but cost us and still is costing us. the right wingers like to bitch about spending yet they are just as bad - they gladly help put us in the current situation - everyone forgets bushes bank bail out.

    in the end he has done a good job as it could be far worse and things are stabilizing. unemployment is high b/c companies needed to understand that having good financial standing isn't just numbers on paper its eliminating risks to your company and streamlining your operation. as my company calls "operational excellence".

    it doesn't matter what he does as the tea party dick riders will put their spin on fiscal responsibility from 5 star resorts in Hawaii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    lets be REAL here.... 911 didn't have quite the impact on the economy housing bubble did;
    I cant really think of anything since the stock market crash that led to the great depression that did have the economic impact of the housing bubble.



    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    furthermore 911/katrina and numerous defining events all = FAIL under bush jr term.
    Please explain this further. The fed govt has no real right to step into any disaster until the state govt asks for help. If you want to blame the problems with Katrina on anyone, it needs to be the state govt. Under Clinton, the state got billions to upgrade the levee system, and they used the money for something else. After Katrina, there was so much infighting between the NO govt and the La govt that nothing got done.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    we all know he got us into a war over BS and it has done nothing but cost us and still is costing us.
    You have your opinion on that, I have mine. We dont agree though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    the right wingers like to bitch about spending yet they are just as bad -
    I agree, GOP went crazy with the money and thats one of the reasons they are no longer in power.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    they gladly help put us in the current situation -
    You need to go back to Clinton on this one. Bush did nothing to stop it, but all the legislation that caused it came under Clinton.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    everyone forgets bushes bank bail out.
    Find the threads, I was fully against that also.

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    in the end he has done a good job as it could be far worse and things are stabilizing.
    Exactly what is stabilizing? Housing prices are still falling. Foreclosures are still very high, bank failures are the highest they have ever been, the dollar is falling. Not to mention the 9.7% unemployment which is actually closer to 18% when you consider the people that quit looking for work or took lesser jobs.

    In the end, everything he has done in the last 14 months has been a failure. Stimulus didnt even slow down job losses. Health care and cap and trade threats are preventing businesses from investing in expansion. Consumer spending is well off of where it should be. The only thing that could make things worse right now would be if health care passes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    unemployment is high b/c companies needed to understand that having good financial standing isn't just numbers on paper its eliminating risks to your company and streamlining your operation. as my company calls "operational excellence".
    Unemployment is high because consumer spending is low and 25% of construction workers have nothing to build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    In the end, everything he has done in the last 14 months has been a failure. Stimulus didnt even slow down job losses. Health care and cap and trade threats are preventing businesses from investing in expansion. Consumer spending is well off of where it should be. The only thing that could make things worse right now would be if health care passes.



    Unemployment is high because consumer spending is low and 25% of construction workers have nothing to build.
    stimulus money spent hasn't even fully trickled down yet as states are just now appropriating funding for construction projects. also if they did nothing and things were same/worse you would say the same thing as there isn't a RIGHT answer since we have just seen times that haven't been seen since the great depression.

    25% of construction workers not building - good maybe we can ship that 25% back to mexico
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