Obama signs one-year extension of Patriot Act

[RandomGuy]

We went to war because Saddam had defied the UN for 12 years and we KNEW he was giving safe harbor to Al-Qaeda. WMDs was a bonus, a bonus we never found.

The existance/evidence/presence of WMD's was (in my opinion, intentionally) OVERSTATED as a scare tactic to go to war, swiftly and before we knew what was going on.

The reality of it all, look at iraq now, and look at them before the war. Not only was the entire country's infrastructure trampled, it has produced a larger new generation of America-haters... Talk to any Iraqi you know. Screw Iraq i can care less about them, but do you really think that this will promote stability in the Middle East? Do you think this increased instability wont affect the US?

Lets not even go too far into the war dispute guys, calm down, this will never end when people have fundamental differences in opinions from the get-go.

I only cited that as one possible example of how those in power can abuse seemingly benevolent provisions to push agendas that they can not through the normal legal process.

IMO The Patriot act is a violation of our 4th Amendment...

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you mike.

Give up your liberties for safety and soon you'll have neither.

[Vteckidd]

The existance/evidence/presence of WMD's was (in my opinion, intentionally) OVERSTATED as a scare tactic to go to war, swiftly and before we knew what was going on.

The reality of it all, look at iraq now, and look at them before the war. Not only was the entire country's infrastructure trampled, it has produced a larger new generation of America-haters... Talk to any Iraqi you know. Screw Iraq i can care less about them, but do you really think that this will promote stability in the Middle East? Do you think this increased instability wont affect the US?

Lets not even go too far into the war dispute guys, calm down, this will never end when people have fundamental differences in opinions from the get-go.

I only cited that as one possible example of how those in power can abuse seemingly benevolent provisions to push agendas that they can not through the normal legal process.

IMO The Patriot act is a violation of our 4th Amendment...




I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you mike.

Give up your liberties for safety and soon you'll have neither.

I totally see your point I'm just not articulating mine correctly. I also agree with you to a point, but I also believe in national security and ben Franklin lived in a different time