Reconciliation

[tony]

Amazing, how do any of you think Bush got a lot of his legislation through? Reconciliation should be a last resort but with the Republican party being the obstructionist party at the moment, Democrats should do what is necessary.

[BanginJimmy]

Amazing, how do any of you think Bush got a lot of his legislation through?

I cant think of a single piece of legislation costing $2T over the 10 years after benefits start that went through because of reconciliation. Why dont you point out one for me.

Reconciliation should be a last resort but with the Republican party being the obstructionist party at the moment, Democrats should do what is necessary.

So the fact that American citizens are also against it shouldnt mean anything. They are smarter than us knuckle dragging civilians, right?


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...th_care_reform

[tony]

I cant think of a single piece of legislation costing $2T over the 10 years after benefits start that went through because of reconciliation. Why dont you point out one for me.

The 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were passed through Reconciliation, the first costing $1.35 Trillion and the latter $1.8 Trillion. So I found two for ya.

[BanginJimmy]

The 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were passed through Reconciliation, the first costing $1.35 Trillion and the latter $1.8 Trillion. So I found two for ya.

I will have to check again, but I believe those bills brought inmore tax revenue, not less.

[tony]

I will have to check again, but I believe those bills brought inmore tax revenue, not less.

You asked what they cost, not how much did they bring in. Independent studies have shown that the proposed healthcare reform would result in a surplus rather than a deficeit so if you're going to compare the two, compare them by the same measuring stick.

[bu villain]

So the fact that American citizens are also against it shouldnt mean anything. They are smarter than us knuckle dragging civilians, right?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...th_care_reform

It does mean something but it doesn't mean everything either. If it did, we wouldn't need representatives to vote at all. We could just take polls for every bill...oh and we would have had Al Gore for a president!

[Vteckidd]

Amazing, how do any of you think Bush got a lot of his legislation through? Reconciliation should be a last resort but with the Republican party being the obstructionist party at the moment, Democrats should do what is necessary.

How are republicans being obstructionist? The dems need ZERO GOP support to pass these bills. They could do it If they had the votes in their own party.

GOP is powerless so let's not skew the argument.

Using reconciliation is a suicide mission to pass this bill. Plain and simple