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    The danger Fox News poses to America is not that it is a biased or partisan arm of the Republican Party, as the Obama Administration contends. Fox is a danger because it is a cult and uses the same destabilizing psychological techniques cults use to undermine the independent functioning of minds they want to control.

    Once unleashed, these cult-like techniques can ultimately take on a life of their own and become very dangerous, especially to the most important of all American freedoms, the freedom of thought. The most precise term for these techniques is mind control.

    Unfortunately, by focusing on Fox News' bias, the Administration diverts attention from the true problem. Fox is a powerful system of mind control that makes a mockery of the principles of self-reliance and individual responsibility for which Fox adherents ostensibly stand.

    For cults, like Fox News, their objective is total control of the victim's mind so that the viewer becomes the easily manipulated pawn of the cult. The cult leadership is not satisfied to merely convince the listener of a particular point of view. The cult wants to effectively pull the levers inside the listener's mind, and direct that mind lock, stock and barrel. The cult will measure its own success by the relative ease with which it is able to do this.

    As with any successful vehicle of thought control in a democratic society, overtly coercive tools of domination are not available as they are in more traditionally authoritarian regimes. People must not only join the cult voluntarily, they must also join without any awareness they have joined a cult.

    Fox succeeds in both of these tasks in large part because they successfully penetrates their viewers' minds in such a way that the viewers do not experience Fox News as telling them what to believe, what to do or, for that matter, even as advocating for what Fox News believes.

    Instead, the Fox viewer has the experience of hearing something they believe they have already known or felt before, whether they have or have not, not unlike a déjà vu experience. The difference between psychological suggestion and independent thought is lost on the person succumbing to psychological suggestion.

    Similarly, on an emotional level, Fox News elicits feelings of resentment from people, feelings which may be there to some extent, but which become far more pronounced by the time the extensive Fox commentary is over. Fox cleverly mirrors and amplifies these feelings explaining why any "sane" person would have the same feelings. The most common emotions in these cases are anger, disgust, and contempt. Humanistic emotions of compassion, love, and humor are almost totally lacking.

    Many of the rest of us, the "non-adherents," if you will, cannot understand how people can stand to listen to Fox News with its non-stop onslaught of what we experience as invective. What we don't allow for in our assessment, because we don't experience it, is the extraordinary relief Fox "commentary" provides to the minds of its adherents. It keeps listeners feeling certain, justified, and stimulated all day long, 24-7. This is no trivial psychological service.

    Fox appears to provide a 24/7 fortification of people's "own" political beliefs. And it is presented in a manner that ostensibly justifies a badly felt need for an emotional catharsis, especially rage, generated by the confusion people feel over the complexity of modern political and cultural issues. Helping people organize a suitable target for this rage requires creativity, good organizational skills and an interest in domination.

    These psychological "services" make Fox a Trojan Horse ostensibly bearing psychological gifts that give Fox free entry to the mind of its listeners and enabling it to surreptitiously exercise longstanding Orwellian techniques of thought control. Well orchestrated, repetitive talking points, limited to a very few key "loaded words," to borrow Orwell's term, take on great psychological effectiveness. The words become mental implants, not arguments or policy justifications.

    In this and other ways, the mind is gradually seduced into letting Fox have its way with the subjects' psyche with remarkably little resistance. People display a robotic acquiescence to positions and attitudes that heretofore had never been of concern to them.

    We have all experienced this striking transition with our own friends and acquaintances, and many of us have even experienced it with loved ones. It is as if one day they are there and reachable and the next they are shut off from us, unreachable by rational discussion. Some literally have a faraway look in their eyes. These are like the terrifying encounters that families of young people confront when their child has been "captured" by a cult. The Fox News cult is one that appeals to "children of all ages."

    After a certain period of time in such a dependent state, the mind is too enfeebled to reestablish any independence. This is what is often referred to as the "dumbing-down" of America.

    This is also why we are seeing in Fox News adherents increasing evidence of cult influence. The Republican conventioneers riotous laughter at the phrase "Drill, Baby, drill," the "birthers" crazily insisting that Obama was born in Kenya, and the "deathers" insisting that the government was putting a clause in the health insurance reform package that would be a "death sentence" for them all suggest that rapturous, cult-induced, vacuous thinking has increasingly replaced rational and independent thought.

    The effects of the manipulations of a cult are very difficult to reverse. Cults are known for the casualties they cause. For some people, the loss of a connection to their cult is followed by acute psychiatric breakdowns. For a democratic society to have so many of its independent minds under this kind of assault is extremely dangerous as the ill-conceived ventures we have undertaken as a nation over the last decade so painfully illustrate.

    Cults need to grow or they wither. They are dependent upon the vampire-like, insatiable need to bring new "blood" into the system with its invigorating impact on the group. How far Fox can go is unclear, but there is no apparent limit to its potential expansion at the present time.

    Arthur Miller's 1945 novel Focus made into a 2002 movie by the same name starring William Macy and Laura Dern provides a chilling portrayal of the spread of a political cult with an unnamed prejudice, presumably anti-semitism. For readers who have not seen it, it will provide an eerie reminder to the feeling you have when your neighbor almost overnight seems to have "swallowed the kool aid" and tells you, as one of my friends did, that he listens to Fox News because it is "fair and balanced." This was not an independent thought my friend had. It was a "thought" chip that had been implanted in his mind by Fox News.

    Cults provide a powerful temporary balm to a troubled mind -- they provide simplicity in the form of a surrender of the struggle an independent confronts. "Give me your tired and uncertain mind, and I will keep you safe from the complexities, uncertainties and fears that afflict you." It is, of course, from the perspective of the person's mental functioning, a Faustian barter with the devil except that one surrenders the mind, not the soul.

    The problem is that with each surrender of an independent mind, there is a strong likelihood that that mind will never return to independent functioning, but, instead, will be in the service of inherently repressive cult-like forces who can only function in what is really a lifeless existence where processes of destruction substitute for life and vitality,

    The Obama Administration is right to be concerned about Fox News. But Fox is not just another biased news media. Fox is a cult.

    Bryant Welch, J.D., Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist and attorney. He is the author of State of Confusion: Political Manipulation and the Assault on the American Mind (St Martin's Press, 2008.)

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    More propaghanda to try and Make liberals feel better.

    See liberals attack the other side without proof. That's their way cause they know they can't argue their own agenda. They can't debate the issues cause they will lose.

    People with a brain realize the difference between right wing zealots and rhetoric. Something you obviously can't do

    i watch fox and CNN and CNN is so far out there it's rediculous. Fox has a bias but they are by far the most neutral in rporting .

    When is the last time a conservative was on msnbc? Or CNN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post

    When is the last time a conservative was on msnbc? Or CNN?
    The House minority leader, John Boehner was on Meet The Press on NBC/MSNBC this morning, and they let him spew right wing talking points for about 15 minutes.

    Also, Joe Scarborugh has a morning show on MSNBC. And Glenn Beck wasn't fired from CNN, he just got a better offer from Fox. If you'll remember, just last year CNN's primetime lineup was Beck, Dobbs, and Nancy Grace... that was like 4 hours of conservative commentary, lol.

    When have you ever seen a liberal on Fox News who wasn't shouted down?

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    ***Great article I just stumbled across.***



    The danger CNN poses to America is not that it is a biased or partisan arm of the Democrat Party, as Americans contend. CNN is a danger because it is a cult and uses the same destabilizing psychological techniques cults use to undermine the independent functioning of minds they want to control.

    Once unleashed, these cult-like techniques can ultimately take on a life of their own and become very dangerous, especially to the most important of all American freedoms, the freedom of thought. The most precise term for these techniques is mind control.

    Unfortunately, by focusing on CNN bias, Americans divert attention from the true problem. CNN is a powerful system of mind control that makes a mockery of the principles of self-reliance and individual responsibility for which CNN adherents ostensibly stand.

    For cults, like CNN, their objective is total control of the victim's mind so that the viewer becomes the easily manipulated pawn of the cult. The cult leadership is not satisfied to merely convince the listener of a particular point of view. The cult wants to effectively pull the levers inside the listener's mind, and direct that mind lock, stock and barrel. The cult will measure its own success by the relative ease with which it is able to do this.

    As with any successful vehicle of thought control in a democratic society, overtly coercive tools of domination are not available as they are in more traditionally authoritarian regimes. People must not only join the cult voluntarily, they must also join without any awareness they have joined a cult.

    CNN succeeds in both of these tasks in large part because they successfully penetrates their viewers' minds in such a way that the viewers do not experience CNN as telling them what to believe, what to do or, for that matter, even as advocating for what CNN believes.

    Instead, the CNN viewer has the experience of hearing something they believe they have already known or felt before, whether they have or have not, not unlike a déjà vu experience. The difference between psychological suggestion and independent thought is lost on the person succumbing to psychological suggestion.

    Similarly, on an emotional level, CNN elicits feelings of resentment from people, feelings which may be there to some extent, but which become far more pronounced by the time the extensive CNN commentary is over. CNN cleverly mirrors and amplifies these feelings explaining why any "sane" person would have the same feelings. The most common emotions in these cases are anger, disgust, and contempt. Humanistic emotions of compassion, love, and humor are almost totally lacking.

    Many of the rest of us, the "non-adherents," if you will, cannot understand how people can stand to listen to CNN with its non-stop onslaught of what we experience as invective. What we don't allow for in our assessment, because we don't experience it, is the extraordinary relief CNN "commentary" provides to the minds of its adherents. It keeps listeners feeling certain, justified, and stimulated all day long, 24-7. This is no trivial psychological service.

    CNN appears to provide a 24/7 fortification of people's "own" political beliefs. And it is presented in a manner that ostensibly justifies a badly felt need for an emotional catharsis, especially rage, generated by the confusion people feel over the complexity of modern political and cultural issues. Helping people organize a suitable target for this rage requires creativity, good organizational skills and an interest in domination.

    These psychological "services" make CNN a Trojan Horse ostensibly bearing psychological gifts that give CNN free entry to the mind of its listeners and enabling it to surreptitiously exercise longstanding Orwellian techniques of thought control. Well orchestrated, repetitive talking points, limited to a very few key "loaded words," to borrow Orwell's term, take on great psychological effectiveness. The words become mental implants, not arguments or policy justifications.

    In this and other ways, the mind is gradually seduced into letting CNN have its way with the subjects' psyche with remarkably little resistance. People display a robotic acquiescence to positions and attitudes that heretofore had never been of concern to them.

    We have all experienced this striking transition with our own friends and acquaintances, and many of us have even experienced it with loved ones. It is as if one day they are there and reachable and the next they are shut off from us, unreachable by rational discussion. Some literally have a faraway look in their eyes. These are like the terrifying encounters that families of young people confront when their child has been "captured" by a cult. The CNN cult is one that appeals to "children of all ages."

    After a certain period of time in such a dependent state, the mind is too enfeebled to reestablish any independence. This is what is often referred to as the "dumbing-down" of America.

    This is also why we are seeing in CNN adherents increasing evidence of cult influence. The Democrat conventioneers riotous laughter at the phrase "evil rich people," the "anti-birthers" crazily insisting that Obama wasn't born in Kenya, and the "healthcare supporters" insisting that the government wasn't putting a clause in the health insurance reform package that would be a "death sentence" for them all suggest that rapturous, cult-induced, vacuous thinking has increasingly replaced rational and independent thought.

    The effects of the manipulations of a cult are very difficult to reverse. Cults are known for the casualties they cause. For some people, the loss of a connection to their cult is followed by acute psychiatric breakdowns. For a democratic society to have so many of its independent minds under this kind of assault is extremely dangerous as the ill-conceived ventures we have undertaken as a nation over the last decade so painfully illustrate.

    Cults need to grow or they wither. They are dependent upon the vampire-like, insatiable need to bring new "blood" into the system with its invigorating impact on the group. How far CNN can go is unclear, but there is no apparent limit to its potential expansion at the present time.

    Arthur Miller's 1945 novel Focus made into a 2002 movie by the same name starring William Macy and Laura Dern provides a chilling portrayal of the spread of a political cult with an unnamed prejudice, presumably anti-semitism. For readers who have not seen it, it will provide an eerie reminder to the feeling you have when your neighbor almost overnight seems to have "swallowed the kool aid" and tells you, as one of my friends did, that he listens to CNN because it is "The Best Political Team on Television." This was not an independent thought my friend had. It was a "thought" chip that had been implanted in his mind by CNN.

    Cults provide a powerful temporary balm to a troubled mind -- they provide simplicity in the form of a surrender of the struggle an independent confronts. "Give me your tired and uncertain mind, and I will keep you safe from the complexities, uncertainties and fears that afflict you." It is, of course, from the perspective of the person's mental functioning, a Faustian barter with the devil except that one surrenders the mind, not the soul.

    The problem is that with each surrender of an independent mind, there is a strong likelihood that that mind will never return to independent functioning, but, instead, will be in the service of inherently repressive cult-like forces who can only function in what is really a lifeless existence where processes of destruction substitute for life and vitality,

    Americans are right to be concerned about CNN. But CNN is not just another biased news media. CNN is a cult.
    Hmmm, I bet if it were written this way originally you would be in here screaming biased propaganda wouldn't you? See how easy it is to change the spin of that article? Anyone can go out there, write up some garbage like that and publish it and it sounds just as convincing whether it says Fox or CNN or whatever news outlet you change the name to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    The House minority leader, John Boehner was on Meet The Press on NBC/MSNBC this morning, and they let him spew right wing talking points for about 15 minutes.

    Also, Joe Scarborugh has a morning show on MSNBC. And Glenn Beck wasn't fired from CNN, he just got a better offer from Fox. If you'll remember, just last year CNN's primetime lineup was Beck, Dobbs, and Nancy Grace... that was like 4 hours of conservative commentary, lol.

    When have you ever seen a liberal on Fox News who wasn't shouted down?

    Boehner is prob the best person in congress right now. I enjoy his candor and he's not afraid of a fight.

    Dont confuse stance on the issues with "talking points". Talkig points usually refers to rhetoric you can't argue. Broad opinion on issues.

    If boehner spewed talking points so did Obama wed night
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    How am I not surprised, these are all typical conservative responses. Each of you right-wingers sound like a spitting image of Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. bashing on topics you simply can't get your head around and/or topics that are against your beliefs. Fox's mind control is certainly at work here.

    I'm working on my PhD in Sociology at an SEC school, so if you would like to discuss having a brain then I'm down. Maybe this article is just too advanced for some of you.

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    Actually, scratch that, I really don't have time going around in circles with you conservatives. All I can say is, get an education.

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    What would you like to debate? You say I have no education you just posted an article that has zero facts. It's opinion.

    Sources? Interviews? Can I get some evidence this cult actually exists? It's a shit article, substitue CNN or msnbc for "fox news" and you get the same thing, a biased opinionated article whose only objective is to give you a reason to hate fox news

    I'll debate issues all day long. I'm educated and I run a quarter million dollar business which I started 2 years ago.

    Uneducated would mean I couldn't argue or understand and issues. I can't argue this article on merits as it has no facts it's someones blog post.

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    Really? A conspiracy theory? That's the worst aspect of the internet, every idiot can write an "article" or post a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    I'm working on my PhD in Sociology at an SEC school,

    I'm sorry, but I dont argue with the mentally challenged.




    The nice thing about academia is that you are completely shielded from the real world. All of those nice theories simply dont apply to the real world.

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    I'd watch Fox over the Communist News Network any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    Actually, scratch that, I really don't have time going around in circles with you conservatives. All I can say is, get an education.

    Typical liberal. When the facts dont fit with your agenda, quickly go right back to attacks. I understand why you dont want to even try to "go around in circles" though. You really are out matched. All you have to fall back on is something a (most likely very liberal) professor has told you.


    By the way, anyone with the time and money can get a phd. It is not a measure of intelligence.

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    all your news is biased and cult like. the same bastard owns most of your news, while two to other bastards own all the rest. News is dictated you the way THEY see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Typical liberal. When the facts dont fit with your agenda, quickly go right back to attacks. I understand why you dont want to even try to "go around in circles" though. You really are out matched. All you have to fall back on is something a (most likely very liberal) professor has told you.


    By the way, anyone with the time and money can get a phd. It is not a measure of intelligence.
    thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard. yea u dont need an IQ to get a phd. if u dont have an ounce of grammar skills or intelligence, you wont even finish the dissertation for obtaining a Phd. Sorry but a Phd is no cake walk, if so we all would have them.

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    I feel like each side is so biased that would rather see the country fall then come together and make shit happen.

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    Both Fox News and MSNBC are jokes they deliver the news in a way that they know their target audience want to hear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec View Post
    Both Fox News and MSNBC are jokes they deliver the news in a way that they know their target audience want to hear.
    Fox cannot be compared with MSNBC. Fox has greater powers, they control the redneck market, aka the weak-minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGen33 View Post
    I feel like each side is so biased that would rather see the country fall then come together and make shit happen.
    I agree. In fact, this can be said about politics in general. It seems no one is out to make this country a better place. It's every man for himself. Later, QD.
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    Lol ok and dems own the poor demographic which is largely NOT white. Can I call them stupid?

    Red neck is usually anyone from the south , doesn't mean they are stupid or weak minded. Just like being poor and black doesn't make you stupid.

    There's crazies on both sides of the aisle . So what? To try and say that a small section of them represents the whole party is ignorant.

    It's so funny that the liberals have 3 major networks in the bag, ONE conservative channel comes out and it's "oh it's not fair"
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    They may not be representative of the whole party, but they are certainly the most vocal and they are the ones the party leaders like Beck/Limbaugh/Palin are trying to court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    Fox cannot be compared with MSNBC. Fox has greater powers, they control the redneck market, aka the weak-minded.

    Watch this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LUid0IZ2w
    Yeah and Rachel maddow is the fucking north star we should set our compass too lol

    she got so many things wrong in that piece. 9-12 project which led to tea parties was organized by beck not fox news. Fox news isn't funding or creating the tea parties try are covering them and why shouldn't they? It's not anti-govt protests no one there is an anarchist asshats.

    So where was all this during the bush years when the left media ripped him apart and bush still did interviews with NBC and abc? Can u imagine if he labeled the a "opposition political party to the white house"?

    Where's the outrage over te left glorifying Cindy sheen and Michael Moore? The left is much more diabolical in their methods

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Lol ok and dems own the poor demographic which is largely NOT white. Can I call them stupid?

    Red neck is usually anyone from the south , doesn't mean they are stupid or weak minded. Just like being poor and black doesn't make you stupid.

    There's crazies on both sides of the aisle . So what? To try and say that a small section of them represents the whole party is ignorant.

    It's so funny that the liberals have 3 major networks in the bag, ONE conservative channel comes out and it's "oh it's not fair"
    Did you even watch that last video I posted? About Fox organizing protests against the US Government? That is what is "not fair." This is simply the media abusing their powers; making everyone (weak-minded) first believe they are a news network and then causing an uproar of uninformed people. (Forward to this post Laugh, or cry?)

    If you would even take the time to watch these videos and see my point then you wouldn't have shit to say.

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    Your video had nothing to do with fox news controlling the rednecks maybe you should watch it again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Yeah and Rachel maddow is the fucking north star we should set out compass too lol

    she got so many things wrong in that piece. 9-12 project which led to tea parties was organized by beck not fox news. Fox news isn't funding or creating the tea parties try are covering them and why shouldn't they? It's not anti-govt protests no one there is an anarchist asshats.

    So where was all this during the bush years when the left media ripped him apart and bush still did interviews with NBC and abc? Can u imagine if he labeled the a "opposition political party to the white house"?

    Where's the outrage over te left glorifying Cindy sheen and Michael Moore? The left is much more diabolical in their methods

    It's only fair when it works in their favor

    Haha what?! Beck IS Fox News, he WORKS for Fox News and he announced AND organized these tea parties on his FOX NEWS SHOW. You have got to be a fucking retard.

    Now your trying to talk about the left during Bush years? Don't even compare that to the Right wing today. The left never organized MASSIVE movements across the nation protesting for.... no one really knows, republicans marching don't even know. Laugh, or cry?

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    They aren't protesting anti govt you dumbasses lol

    fox is covering it so the fuck what? The left landers to their viewers why can't fox pander to theirs?

    The tea party was a huge story and only fox covered it. WHY?

    How come NONE of the major networks covered Scott browns victory speech even though fox covered both coakley and brown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    Haha what?! Beck IS Fox News, he WORKS for Fox News and he announced AND organized these tea parties on his FOX NEWS SHOW. You have got to be a fucking retard.

    Now your trying to talk about the left during Bush years? Don't even compare that to the Right wing today. The left never organized MASSIVE movements across the nation protesting for.... no one really knows, republicans marching don't even know. Laugh, or cry?
    Whose weak minded and stupid?

    You guys admit beck is a infotainer he's not their news correspondents. He's like geraldo, John stossel etc. Some of it's rhetoric some of it's true.

    Seems like you can't tell the difference. And you call me dumb

    Beck organized the 9-12 project just like oreilly and beck do the bold fresh tour. He used his show to promote it, which was nothig to do with antigovt protests.

    Oooooo shame on him for having a meeting with likeminded individuals.

    Can we kick apart all the news anchors on the left that go to anti bush events?
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    You can't hold an argument with us at all cause you don't know enough. You run down liberal left talking points and blogs and act like that means something.

    I'll provide you the same challenge i made to blender, watch an episode of Glenn beck with me TiVo it and come back here afterwards and you show me what was wrong that he reported and how he's in the tank for the GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Fox news isn't funding or creating the tea parties try are covering them and why shouldn't they?
    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    fox is covering it so the fuck what?

    The tea party was a huge story and only fox covered it.
    Are these two opposing points? I can't really make out the first one, did you mean to say, "or trying to cover them." ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    The tea party was a huge story and only fox covered it. WHY?

    How come NONE of the major networks covered Scott browns victory speech even though fox covered both coakley and brown?

    Cause the left media doesn't want egg on their face
    Fox covered it because they created it!! It's just an angle for them, they simply get uninformed "patriotic" citizens to stand up for their "American rights" so that people see huge masses of protesters. This is Fox's attempt at making them look like their ideas and viewpoints are the right ones.

    I'm sure other networks showed highlights of the speech, but I really don't see the need to show US senator's victory speeches all over the networks. But since CNN didn't show this, then in your eyes they are left? Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    I'll provide you the same challenge i made to blender, watch an episode of Glenn beck with me TiVo it and come back here afterwards and you show me what was wrong that he reported and how he's in the tank for the GOP.
    I've pointed it out countless times, you just choose to ignore it. You are entitled to believe whatever you want, as wrong as that may be. I'm over Beck's hatespeak and loony conspiracy theories, its beneath me to waste any more time on that trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Whose weak minded and stupid?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKKgua7wQk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevga9jUC48


    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    You guys admit beck is a infotainer he's not their news correspondents. He's like geraldo, John stossel etc. Some of it's rhetoric some of it's true.
    You're right, some of it is entertainment and some is true, but thats exactly what he has to do. He has to have some true points in his segments to reassure you that he is telling the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Beck organized the 9-12 project just like oreilly and beck do the bold fresh tour. He used his show to promote it, which was nothig to do with antigovt protests.
    You know damn well those people out marching are there because their guy lost, and Obama is in office. Therefore, they are marching against Obama. Obama is the President, in the US GOVERNMENT. The people are marching AGAINST THE US GOVERNMENT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Oooooo shame on him for having a meeting with likeminded individuals.
    If anyone is being ignorant now, it's you. To think that these protests are meetings is outrageous. These are clear as day PROTESTS against Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Can we kick apart all the news anchors on the left that go to anti bush events?
    Be my guest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    I've pointed it out countless times, you just choose to ignore it. You are entitled to believe whatever you want, as wrong as that may be. I'm over Beck's hatespeak and loony conspiracy theories, its beneath me to waste any more time on that trash.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    I've pointed it out countless times, you just choose to ignore it. You are entitled to believe whatever you want, as wrong as that may be. I'm over Beck's hatespeak and loony conspiracy theories, its beneath me to waste any more time on that trash.
    This should be EASY for you then! Why back down?

    You haven't pointed out anything you've posted other peoples blogs or video that you couldn't argue or articulate yourself. I've dethroned you almost every time and now I offer you a chance to shine and you back down
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    If its that important to you we'll do it. I'll have to check the DVR and find a vacant time that no one else in the house is recording anything. It will probably have to be tomorrow's episode as I have a lot of projects going on this week and I'm working extra hours.

    Glenn comes on at 5 right? Got to get the old people early because most of them usually go to bed by 7

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    If you accept we can choose what night I'm flying tomrrow so I can't do it but later this week I'm game

    I'll even watch olberman and do the same thing if you want to be fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    If you accept we can choose what night I'm flying tomrrow so I can't do it but later this week I'm game

    I'll even watch olberman and do the same thing if you want to be fair
    I set up the DVR for today's Glenn Beck. So its today, Thursday, or next week sometime. I've got plans Wednesday and Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    I'm working on my PhD in Sociology at an SEC school, so if you would like to discuss having a brain then I'm down. Maybe this article is just too advanced for some of you.
    I am absolutely positive, beyond a shadow of a doubt my IQ is higher than yours and I watch Fox. I'm sure you love to go around and tout how smart you are, and if everyone would just listen to you the world would be a better place. It would not. That article is full of complete retardation. No wonder you found it intriguing.

    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    Actually, scratch that, I really don't have time going around in circles with you conservatives. All I can say is, get an education.
    Again, you are in school now. I have finished college (AKA my "education") and live and work in the real world. I don't need an education... You need to finish yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by blurred visions View Post
    Fox cannot be compared with MSNBC. Fox has greater powers, they control the redneck market, aka the weak-minded.

    Watch this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3LUid0IZ2w
    LOLOLOL... So only the smart people watch MSNBC??? LOLOLOL

    While I can see where in your liberal mind this all makes sense... The clip starts off about the White House's objection to Fox talking to the "Pay Czar". Just take that in itself, how in the world do we even have a "Pay Czar"? Doesn't that bother you? Of course it doesn't, because everyone rich lied, cheated or stole to get the money. Right? Screwed over the little guy? Oppressed some minorities? Yeah...

    Why are liberals, who claim to be open minded, the most vitriolic about opposing views?

    BTW: Karl Marx is one of the principal architects of modern social science (Sociology, if I was unclear). Enjoy that degree.

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    I will argue and debate with anyone, liberal spew talking points , then say "youre too dumb to understand" and withdraw into their own social circles

    You can tell by reading these forums who KNOWS what they are talking about, and who doesnt.

    Although i dont agree with Tonys views, i respect them and he can articulate his point (even though i may disagree with it)

    Blender ou show FLASHES of being able to do that then you just resort to name calling and posting left wing blogs if anyone challenges you.

    Blurred Visions, well, if hes associated with the car club of the same name, then he needs no explanation lol
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    When have I posted a left wing blog? I wasn't aware that the AP and its affiliated newspapers, nor the US census were left wing blogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    I am absolutely positive, beyond a shadow of a doubt my IQ is higher than yours and I watch Fox.
    I'll be laughing at this all the way to my grave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    I'm sure you love to go around and tout how smart you are, and if everyone would just listen to you the world would be a better place. It would not. That article is full of complete retardation. No wonder you found it intriguing.
    This is coming from someone who A. Didn't read the article or B. Didn't understand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Again, you are in school now. I have finished college (AKA my "education") and live and work in the real world. I don't need an education... You need to finish yours.
    I did live in the real world and I worked, fortunately I was able to see how well an education would pay off for me in the end. "I have finished college" is a term you are using too broadly. That could easily mean you got an associates, and I am over here finishing my PhD. This is purely a Fox Republican tactic of quickly masking information in a way that makes it seem as if it is greater than what it really is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    LOLOLOL... So only the smart people watch MSNBC??? LOLOLOL
    I posted that clip to back up my theory.

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