The President is becoming a fiscal conservative

[BanginJimmy]

in speeches only.


He is proposing a whopping 3.8T budget for the upcoming fiscal year. After Pelosi and Reid have finished adding their pork and buying votes this budget will surpass 4T.

According to the Herritage Foundation, federal tax revenues are expected to be around 2.2T for this year. Even is the fed govt increased tax revenue by 50%, we will still see a nearly 1T deficit.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...illion-budget/

[blurred visions]

Yeah, lets read an article from Fox.

[BanginJimmy]

Yeah, lets read an article from Fox.

I would post one from someone more respectable and less biased, like MSNBC, but they havent seen fit to report on that yet. Maybe they will now that FOX has.

[Total_Blender]

I would post one from someone more respectable and less biased, like MSNBC, but they havent seen fit to report on that yet. Maybe they will now that FOX has.

And I would still believe them over Fox. Fox takes things first and runs with them without fact checking or verifying. Just because they report it first does not mean they report it best.

[Vteckidd]

And I would still believe them over Fox. Fox takes things first and runs with them without fact checking or verifying. Just because they report it first does not mean they report it best.

You're so full of shit. Is this your new argument now? I've seen you mention it more than once now.

Prove it

fox breaks every story first because most of it the "left media" won't report it.

How do you fact check what Obama himself is proposing? Lol. I mean he says 3.8trillion do you actually want to see the physical budget ?

They are reporting on what he's proposing , not some opinion.

Open your ears and eyes

[blurred visions]

And I would still believe them over Fox. Fox takes things first and runs with them without fact checking or verifying. Just because they report it first does not mean they report it best.

+1

I've noticed Fox tends to just make up news.

[Vteckidd]

+1

I've noticed Fox tends to just report news I don't like to hear.

Fixed

show me one story in the last year they had to retract because of "not fact checking" and it better not be some crap with Glenn beck. It better be Americas newsroom, shepard smith, Bret baier, oreilly the people that report the news.

You always said beck was infotainment

[Vteckidd]

Fox isn't lieing lol

Facts are facts if you don't believe it go read it from the cbo or other credible sources

[Vteckidd]

I can see the msnbc and abc news now

"Obama proposes 3.8 trillion budget due to George w bush"

[Browning151]

lol, I'm not surprised that this quickly turned into a news organization debate instead of a budget debate. I don't see how you could put much spin on a budget, it's coming directly from the budget proposal not an opinion on it but if you don't want to read it from Fox News feel free to research it and pick whatever source spins it to your taste.

[Vteckidd]

Crap is the best word I can use to describe that article. Politcal crap and rhetoric

Sources, proof, interviews, case studies?

You guys say fox misreports well put your money where your mouth is. Prove it post something.

[Total_Blender]

Beck himself said he's "an entertainer," probably because he would be liable for slander prosecution if he said he was presenting news.

But yeah they labled Republican congressman (and pervert) Mark Foley as a Democrat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9mNmZ9JpG8

You only asked for one, so there you go.

But yeah, I will find my information on the proposed spending freeze and the new budget from a better and more neutral source than Fox News and the Heritage Foundation (which is a right-wing think tank). Fox News is garbage.

[BanginJimmy]

Beck himself said he's "an entertainer," probably because he would be liable for slander prosecution if he said he was presenting news.

But yeah they labled Republican congressman (and pervert) Mark Foley as a Democrat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9mNmZ9JpG8

You only asked for one, so there you go.

Is that really the best you can do? A typing error? How about finding a story they did that was false?

But yeah, I will find my information on the proposed spending freeze and the new budget from a better and more neutral source than Fox News and the Heritage Foundation (which is a right-wing think tank). Fox News is garbage.

The proposed spending freeze is complete BS and everyone knows it. It would be the equivalent of cutting about $15 out of a 100k budget.

[Vteckidd]

Is that really the best you can do? A typing error? How about finding a story they did that was false?




The proposed spending freeze is complete BS and everyone knows it. It would be the equivalent of cutting about $15 out of a 100k budget.

you beat me to it. he thing he is whining and complaining about is a typing error. Or the error where they put too many % numbers up that added to over 100.


Show me a story where their NEWS ANCHORS misreported gross factual information that was driven by "right wing propaghanda"


I watch FOX prob 2-3 ours a day and i have YET to see a story they misreported on. Matter of fact FOX goes out of their way to have sources and present their Facts because they know how the LEFT watches them. They try not to give them any ammo


If the best you can come up with is them saying TENS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE at the Tea Party rallies instead of THOUSANDS dont bother posting.

[TSiFTW]

That is the worst trait of a true lefty. They only hear the facts that they choose to hear. They bash FOX for reporting ALL the news, not just the news that makes the lefts look good. Then they want to bash the rights about being more open minded. The lefts are as close minded and fucking hard headed as they come. Hahaha. Futile efforts indeed.

[Total_Blender]

You guys are really good at stacking up the bullshit.



I've never seen Fox provide a source for anything. I've never seen them once get their attribution right. I am assuming none of you have ever read or even seen an AP Stylebook or have ever been to a lecture on media ethics. So yeah, fuck off.

[Vteckidd]

Omg fox news didn't fact check

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100131/...r_wh/us_budget

[Vteckidd]

Fucking hell google it

http://www.google.com/#/m/search?uip...g=gp&source=gp

20 news organizations on first page reporting it

again liberals debate the issue of fox reporting it , completely ignoring the actual story. Fiscal conservative? Laughable

[BanginJimmy]

Here is a nice example of CNN's reporting and fact checking.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/02/tailwind.johnson/

[tony]

Back on the budget.. its a catch 22. Ask an economist if the current conditions warrant cuts and less spending. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.. recovery requires investment otherwise you get stagnation.

[Total_Blender]

Also, you said the media outlet your friend works for is not "Fox affiliated". So just because the place your friend works goes by the book does not mean that Fox does.

[Browning151]

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/01/news...dex.htm?hpt=T1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35178623...s-white_house/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_444031.html

There, read it from somewhere else besides Fox. Now can you quit bitching about what news outlet it came from in the first place and get back to the OP and the fact that Obama is proposing a budget with $1.6T deficit?

If you want to piss and moan about Fox go do it in the "cult" thread.

[Total_Blender]

If you want to piss and moan about Fox go do it in the "cult" thread.

I don't really agree that Fox is a "cult" in the popular sense. They abuse information pretty badly, but I don't think that there will be a day when we find all the Fox staff and viewers dead under purple sheets sporting Nikes (not that that wouldn't be FUCKING AWESOME, lol).

I do think Fox News and their viewers are a cult in the sociological sense, but I really don't feel like explaining sociology to you teabaggers.

I was called out in this thread, and I responded in this thread. So, there

[BanginJimmy]

They abuse information pretty badly,

Why don't you show us an example of FOX abusing info. Unless you mean actually telling the whole truth is the abuse. In that case you just need to go back to watching Keith Olbermann and jerking each other off every time Obama speaks.

[Total_Blender]

Why don't you show us an example of FOX abusing info. s.

I just did above. Fox implied that the three Black guys were "leaders" within the movement, when really they were just "guests" and the one guy who was applying for a Senate seat got denied. Fox exaggerated the facts to make them fit the headline they wanted to present.

[Vteckidd]

Yeah but he's investing in govt jobs not private sector jobs.

You have to spend but it's all for nothing if it's spent wrong

[BanginJimmy]

And CNN didn't mention Obama's ties to a domestic terrorist or that he had the full support pof black supremists. What's your point?


BTW, I do believe I saw FOX bring up the white supremists to one of the tea party organizers.

[Vteckidd]

Don't even bother arguing with blender again he has managed to completely ruin a topic by trying to argue coulda shoulda woulda.

Just ignore him he's so far deep down the rabbit hole it's not even worth arguing anymore.

Back on topic the president seems to be completely contradicting himself. They said the cbo estimates the "jobs bill" he wants could cost over 100 billion

[Vteckidd]

Obama lied since day one "no increase in taxes on the middle class".

1)Well when the bush taxcuts expire he breaks that promise. When healthcare reform passes and there's penalties for not signing up, we call that an indirect tax.

2)where did you copy and paste this from that's obviously not you typing not your style. You have never articulated a point that cool headed before

[Total_Blender]

2)where did you copy and paste this from that's obviously not you typing not your style. You have never articulated a point that cool headed before

I didn't copy and paste it, that's all my handiwork. I figured I had spewed my quota of bile already earlier today, lol.

I'm against the mandates too... requiring people to sign up for health insurance while not doing anything to solve the problems that keep so many people from having health insurance is kind of a dick-move. I'm holding out hope that the end result of healthcare reform will be something better than whats on the table now. The House Dems are not having the Senate bill in its current form because they oppose the Nebraska situation...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/he.../26health.html