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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Now for the 10k question. Why is that test a deterrent? Answer, cause its illegal.

    This idea that just because people do it anyways it should be legal is complete BS. I dont want to hear about alcohol or cigs either as I completely understand that there is no reason for them to be legal and weed not to be. I dont understand it, but all I can say is that they are both longstanding item in our society whereas weed is not. I know it has been used for hundreds of years, but the US is a European like society and it was not used in Europe until relatively recently.

    hey..... apply for a job in palmdale ca with a prescription for pot.....and you wont get the job....

    get hurt in palmdale...with a prescription for pot and get tested positive.....lose your job....

    its not okay to do drugs.... period....

    that goes for loratab
    oxycontin
    codine
    and so on......


    get off the dope and grow up a bit..... granted alcohol just doesnt cut it... and weed might be great and all.... i wont argue.....

    but... being sober and clean with a great job is a hell of alot better than being able to roll one and put it in the air.

    if you got a great job and are making tons of money and can smoke dope..... sweet.....

    get popped or arrested for possesion and see how long your job lasts.
    thats the issue right there

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyone View Post
    No one can even come in here bashing, cause it doesn't matter, i KNOW whats right, if you're to ignorant to watch this movie, or even the trailer, than you mean nothing to me, and nothing you say matters.
    People should have read this line before posting in this thread. With or against pot, try the movie out. You might learn something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    There goes the service industry b/c the dummy on the other end of the phone at Bank of America is too high to know where to transfer my money. .
    Most people who drink don't go to work drunk, why do you think people who smoke would be high at work? I'd lose my job if I showed up drunk just the same as if I'd lose it if I showed up high.

    For the record, I don't smoke. But if it were legal and there wasn't the risk of losing my job and financial aid, I'd probably use it now and then to help with my insomnia, which is currently un-treated because I don't like pills. Weed really doesn't do much to me besides make me sleepy, and its probably better for me in the long run than sleeping pills or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23 View Post
    Can't argue the fact that it's illegal

    Let's looking at speeders. 85mph in a 65mph zone, what are they thinking . I hope teacher never speed, since speeders "practice bad judgment" daily. See how your comment can be flipped. Shit even drug free people use bad judgment on a daily basis. I pretty sure you don't do everything strictly by the book, but that doesn't automatically mean you "practice bad judgment".


    Lets see your thought process. Lets even the playing field. Let's say alcohol and weed are both illegal or both legal. How would you feel then? Is weed worse than alcohol only because it's illegal? Or are you more concern about the effects of smoking weed? (Or are you just going to discredit this paragraph and not answer because weed isn't legal?)


    Like I said before, I'm drug free. So weed being legal or illegal wont bother me one bit. It's just hypocritical that people the want to keep weed illegal, while alcohol intoxicated people continue to kill innocent people. So my stand in this argument is, if weed is illegal, alcohol should be also. Can anyone give me a reason why alcohol should be legal while weed isn't?

    Speeding is not a chemical that impairs a person's brain process. Drugs and alcohol are. Compare apples to apple, not oranges. Conciously breaking a law to smoke something that impairs your judgment is not something that would fail under common sense thinking.

    If alcohol was illegal, I'd answer the same way for alcohol. Legalize weed, and it will be the same as alcohol. Abuse either and you go to jail.

    I don't care if they make weed legal, or if they make alcohol illegal. Currently though, weed is illegal, and alcohol is legal, so any other arguments are moot.
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    Street racing and speeding are both bad judgement calls too. And probably 75% of this forum street races/speeds, including some of those who are the most against legalizing MJ. Theres enough bad judgement so that everyone involved in this discussion can have a slice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Speeding is not a chemical that impairs a person's brain process. Drugs and alcohol are. Compare apples to apple, not oranges.
    Are you 100% sure? Why do people speed? A. To get from point A to point B, and/or B. To get a rush (I bet you fall in this category since I see a bike in your avatar ). How do they get that rush? It's because their body release an increase amount of hormone called Epinephrine (aka adrenaline). People can become overwhelm by this hormone (aka natural drug) that can "impairs a person's brain process" (ever see a minor confrontation turn into a fist fight, I bet adrenaline had something to do with it ). So you're right speeding is not a "chemical", but speed can cause a natural "chemical" in your body to be release more into your system impeding your judgment. So I view my example relative to my argument

    "Drugs and alcohol are"

    Thanks for helping me prove my point. If one is legal, the other should be also and visa versa.


    "Compare apples to apple, not oranges."

    I think not (refer back to my first paragraph)


    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Conciously breaking a law to smoke something that impairs your judgment is not something that would fail under common sense thinking.
    Not necessary, look back to prohibition days. They continued to drink, produce, and smuggle alcohol, and look what that led to...........legalizing it. I guess those rebels lack "common sense thinking". Now to think, after you get home, you can lay back, put your feet up, and "pop you a cold one" all because of those people who lacked "common sense thinking".


    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    If alcohol was illegal, I'd answer the same way for alcohol. Legalize weed, and it will be the same as alcohol. Abuse either and you go to jail.

    I don't care if they make weed legal, or if they make alcohol illegal. Currently though, weed is illegal, and alcohol is legal, so any other arguments are moot.
    Time for the head shot....
    I agree with you 100%!!! If it's illegal don't do the shit, but that's not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of this thread is should marijuana be illegal. The argument "marijuana is illegal" does not justify WHY IT SHOULD BE illegal. It justify why people shouldn't do marijuana. So throw that argument out the window in this debate. If you want to use the statement "it's impedes your judgment", cool But I will counter with, alcohol impedes your judgment yet it's still legal. I might add, it's PROVEN that the long terms (and short terms) effect of alcohol is far more severe than weed, yet it's still legal. Why is that?

    If you against legalizing weed, I hope you don't drink

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    IMO if you have never smoked bud then you have no room to talk about how it impairs a person's brain process how would you know? you just repeat what you have heard from other people...and dont tell me doctors have done studies and tests cause bud reacts different to everyone...me personaly i can do alot of shiet when im high. i cant smoke a blunt and just chill there and not do shiet. just my ...if u dnt like weed or anything about it then just stay away from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23 View Post
    I believe marijuana should be legal and just CONTROLLED just like cigarettes and alcohol. Tax the shit out of it and BAM there's another form of revenue for the government (yea yea I know easier said then done).



    Baby J,
    You don't want those people to smoke weed, but many of them drink. What's your feelings on that? Teachers taking a shot after a long day of teaching. Mechanics having a few beers in the fridge at the shop. Pilots going to the bar between flights. A teller having a ladies night out with her girls getting drinks bought for them. The argument against alcohol is just as strong as weed (if not stronger), yet it's just an controlled substance. Plus, it's related to many (which is an understatement) deaths. The only "one-up" alcohol has on weed is it's legal, but that's just my opinion.



    From personal experiences (I'm a professional student LOL), I have been around both drunks and potheads. Weed smokers tend to be more laid back, chilled, and hungry (LOL). I never seen one start a fight or anything crazy. They do tend to talk really crazy though. As for drunks, the ranged from passed-out to loud/rude and acting real crazy (fighting and such). So I would rather be around a people smoking then drinking (minus the smell).


    (And this is coming from a person that has been drug free since birth, and will always be.)
    You're assuming that every person that drinks automatically gets drunk. If I have a wine or two with dinner, I am still sober.

    However, all weed smokers WILL get high.. that is the purpose of smoking weed. Otherwise you would be smoking cigs.

    Therein lies the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300 View Post
    However, all weed smokers WILL get high.. that is the purpose of smoking weed. Otherwise you would be smoking cigs.

    Therein lies the difference.
    Just as you can get nothing from drinking one beer or you can get shitty after drinking a fifth of liquor, there are varying degrees of intoxication for MJ according to how much is used and the individual's tolerance to it. Also, the effects of MJ don't last nearly as long. You can be stoned out of your gourd and be fine a half hour later, whereas with booze you stay drunk for hours, and you might feel groggy/hungover the next day.

    Hell cigarettes affect brain chemistry too, and if you smoke enough tobacco you'll get high from that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23 View Post

    Are you 100% sure? Why do people speed? A. To get from point A to point B, and/or B. To get a rush (I bet you fall in this category since I see a bike in your avatar ). ...
    "Drugs and alcohol are"

    Thanks for helping me prove my point. If one is legal, the other should be also and visa versa.


    "Compare apples to apple, not oranges."

    I think not (refer back to my first paragraph)




    Not necessary, look back to prohibition days. They continued to drink, produce, and smuggle alcohol, and look what that led to...........legalizing it. I guess those rebels lack "common sense thinking". Now to think, after you get home, you can lay back, put your feet up, and "pop you a cold one" all because of those people who lacked "common sense thinking".




    Time for the head shot....
    I agree with you 100%!!! If it's illegal don't do the shit, but that's not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of this thread is should marijuana be illegal. The argument "marijuana is illegal" does not justify WHY IT SHOULD BE illegal. It justify why people shouldn't do marijuana. So throw that argument out the window in this debate. If you want to use the statement "it's impedes your judgment", cool But I will counter with, alcohol impedes your judgment yet it's still legal. I might add, it's PROVEN that the long terms (and short terms) effect of alcohol is far more severe than weed, yet it's still legal. Why is that?

    If you against legalizing weed, I hope you don't drink

    I do not fall into an "adrenaline" category. I don't ride my bike for a rush.

    The AMA does not agree with your assessment of natually-produced adrenaline and impairment. http://jama.ama-assn.org They do have many studies and articles concerning impairment due to marijauna use.

    Natural adrenaline is not the same as inhaling a foreign substance. Again, apple trees do not bear oranges.

    As I said before, I do not care if weed is legal or illegal, nor does it matter to me if alcohol is legal or illegal. I do not require either to exist or enjoy life.
    If they legalize marijuana, I am fine with it. But it is not legal right now, so defending the use of it is pointless.

    Alcohol can be just as bad as marijuana, I do not disagree with that. Either can be abused, but if I choose to drink a beer and do not go over the legal limit, I am not going to jail. That is better judgment than possessing an item that will send you straight to a cell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    ...Also, the effects of MJ don't last nearly as long. You can be stoned out of your gourd and be fine a half hour later, whereas with booze you stay drunk for hours, and you might feel groggy/hungover the next day.....

    That disagrees with many published studies from doctors. Here is one:
    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...urcetype=HWCIT

    Many more on JAMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    If they legalize marijuana, I am fine with it. But it is not legal right now, so defending the use of it is pointless.
    .
    Because we all know that the government is always right.

    You guys kill me... anything about raising taxes 1% is "government tyranny" and "taking our rights," but a substance that probably 80% of Americans will try in their lifetimes and 10% use on a regular basis being illegal with felony consequences is perfectly OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Alcohol can be just as bad as marijuana, I do not disagree with that. Either can be abused, but if I choose to drink a beer and do not go over the legal limit, I am not going to jail. That is better judgment than possessing an item that will send you straight to a cell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    so defending the use of it is pointless.
    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Stop making sense. You're scaring the natives.
    Do y'all even understand what's going on in this thread, it was about WHY it is illegal, not legalize so i can get high, I was trying to inform you on the uses, of the plant and buds, and you take it and mash it up and come back with, it's illegal , no shit, but WHYYYYYY? dummies.

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    It is illegal bc advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case, as show in this thread. Dummies.

    You got your answer.

    /thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    It is illegal bc advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case, as show in this thread. Dummies.

    You got your answer.

    /thread
    That is by far the LAST reason it is illegal, try watching the movie, or atleast the trailer.

    ALSO, if no appealing case that why do 14 states allow use of it?

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    ALSOOO, Did you know that the U.S government has a patent on using cannabis as medicine? Think about that...dont believe me..

    U.S. Patent # 6630507
    In 2003, the U.S. Government as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services filed for, and was awarded a patent on cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants. U.S. Patent 6630507


    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507.html

    Abstract
    Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3. ##STR1##

    So if the US Gov. says that MMJ has no use, why the hell did they file a Patent on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Fact: It doesn't matter if it should or shouldn't be illegal - it is currently illegal here without a medical prescription.

    Fact: If you want it to be legal, we are not stopping you from moving to a place where it is legal.

    Fact: No one here really cares what you care about.

    BTW - Your post is proof enough that it kills brain cells.....

    Now, go get high and mellow out.....
    This post. Read it again. Then read it again after that because it makes sense every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasb84 View Post
    get popped or arrested for possesion and see how long your job lasts. thats the issue right there


    Got "popped" with it while employed with a pretty big company. I didn't loose my job, but got a pretty hefty fine. Never smoked before I went into work, EVER! I had a lot of responsibility on my hands at that job. Not everyone that smokes is an ignorant fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Because we all know that the government is always right.

    You guys kill me... anything about raising taxes 1% is "government tyranny" and "taking our rights," but a substance that probably 80% of Americans will try in their lifetimes and 10% use on a regular basis being illegal with felony consequences is perfectly OK.
    Fact: The government is not always right.
    We definitely agree on this - as should everyone else in this thread.

    Like I said before - personally, I don't care if it is legalized or not. I don't use it. I'm one of the 20%.

    I do think that it is humorous that a pothead thinks that one biased video suddenly will overturn multiple published medical studies, and suddenly convince Congress to change the law. I wonder how many congressmen surf IA when they are not in session?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Fact: It doesn't matter if it should or shouldn't be illegal - it is currently illegal here without a medical prescription.

    Fact: If you want it to be legal, we are not stopping you from moving to a place where it is legal.

    Fact: No one here really cares what you care about.

    BTW - Your post is proof enough that it kills brain cells.....

    Now, go get high and mellow out.....
    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN View Post
    This post. Read it again. Then read it again after that because it makes sense every time.
    DO Y'ALL EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?

    DUH! Its illegal, we all know that, but WHY???

    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    It doesn't matter if it should or shouldn't be illegal
    DOESNT MATTER?!?! are you crazy, do you know what you're saying? That is exactly what matters, and what this thread was started for. Learn to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    I do think that it is humorous that a pothead thinks that one biased video suddenly will overturn multiple published medical studies, and suddenly convince Congress to change the law. I wonder how many congressmen surf IA when they are not in session?
    I'm with you on that one... but as far as published medical studies go I would think theres enough evidence both for and against to at least warrant further research. Most of the studies referenced by those who are against MJ date back to the 1930's-1950's when they tied MJ in with rhetoric against Blacks, Mexicans, immigrants, and communists.

    The Netherlands and Canada heven't fallen apart since they implemented policies of non-enforcement... unemployment in the Netherlands is the lowest in the EU at 4%. Drug use rates for all types of drugs in the Netherlands are lower than in the US.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Netherlands

    http://www.drugpolicy.org/global/dru.../thenetherlan/

    As far as that being a biased video, I can't comment on it as I haven't seen it. But I do know that the BBC did a good documentary called "Should I smoke pot?" or something like that a couple of years ago, and it had a neutral perspective.

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    Super - so Potheads can move there. Problem solved. LOL

    http://www.drugabuse.gov/Nida_Notes/...Marijuana.html

    And LOL at comparing MJ from the 30s - 50s to the hot-rodded pot of today - that's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Super - so Potheads can move there. Problem solved. LOL

    http://www.drugabuse.gov/Nida_Notes/...Marijuana.html

    And LOL at comparing MJ from the 30s - 50s to the hot-rodded pot of today - that's funny.
    Heard that one before, there has ALWAYS been and ALWAYS will be better pot than the day before, and it has been like that forever, just because technology has advanced with nutriants and different hydro setups means nothing.

    You would be like the person saying the Panama red from the 70's was to strong. LOL

    ALSO, if sooo many people are hurt/killed by pot, where are all the Universities showing off the bodies and organs that have been damaged? O, thats right, THEY DONT HAVE THEM, so they use people killed by cigs to show the smoke damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    No you're not, i just said pot is going to get stronger everyday, its a good thing, there is more THC than that report says, some weed have up to 25-30 percent THC, the good stuff, but why do you think there is such thing as hash which is upwards of 60 percent THC, in cali they have stuff called Bc BUDDER, its 97 percent THC, but what does that mean?.....you get HIGHer, thats the point, like Obama said.."i inhaled, that was the point".

    but way to avoid, and walk aroudn my point, where are all the bodies and lungs of pot smokers, you would think since its so bad and it does so much damage the goverment would be parading them around....but they cant, cause they dont exist.

    so back to my main point and fact...ANY argument on why marijuana should be illegal just got proven wrong , Show me some proof of a death from pot, show me where all the bodies of smokers are.

    When you type tobacco lungs in google you get nasty pics of lungs, when you type weed/marijuana lungs, you get picture sof weed LOLOLOLOLOL. GTFO

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    You sound like a dummy if you think there is not stronger weed out there. That is the entire point I hear dumbass potheads making when looking for a seller... who has the "good good" and who sells the bullshit. Save it man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    You sound like a dummy if you think there is not stronger weed out there. That is the entire point I hear dumbass potheads making when looking for a seller... who has the "good good" and who sells the bullshit. Save it man.
    HOLY SHIT, DUDE MY PAST 2 POST SAYS I KNOW THERE IS STRONGER WEED, ITS A GOOD THING

    JESUS CHRIST, SHOWS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyone View Post
    there has ALWAYS been and ALWAYS will be better pot than the day before, and it has been like that forever
    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyone View Post
    No you're not, i just said pot is going to get stronger everyday, its a good thing, there is more THC than that report says, some weed have up to 25-30 percent THC, the good stuff, but why do you think there is such thing as hash which is upwards of 60 percent THC, in cali they have stuff called Bc BUDDER, its 97 percent THC, but what does that mean?.....you get HIGHer, thats the point, like Obama said.."i inhaled, that was the point".

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyone View Post
    HOLY SHIT, DUDE MY PAST 2 POST SAYS I KNOW THERE IS STRONGER WEED, ITS A GOOD THING

    JESUS CHRIST, SHOWS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE.
    The link you posted (if u learn how to read) says that weed is the same potency as always - I'll show you below:

    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyone View Post
    Now YOU'RE the dummy. That shows what being a pothead does for you.
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    Since you're obv a pothead I'll show you what the link YOU posted says:::

    "Myth: Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past. Adults who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s fail to realize that when today's youth use marijuana they are using a much more dangerous drug.

    Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects."

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::


    And THIS kids, is why you don't use drugs - this fucker doesn't even know what point he is trying to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    The link you posted (if u learn how to read) says that weed is the same potency as always - I'll show you below:



    Now YOU'RE the dummy. That shows what being a pothead does for you.
    UMMM OK LETS BREAK IT DOWN....excerpt from the website below...

    Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s.

    ME-Ok, yes they are, its weed, its alwasy been weed, will always be weed. Water and sunlight is all you need to grow it.

    A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency.

    ME-What that means is, they used shitty mass grown mexican shwag, which is dirty poorly grown and contains nearly no THC. and compared it to the good homegrown stuff that someone grows a little ofg and take good care of it.

    However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana.

    ME- Kinda goes what what i just said. Newer studies show, that there has always been strong weed, the gov doesnt say that though.

    Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous.

    ME- TRUE, b/c you cant o.d on it, hence why there is concentrates(hash) so you can get wicked high.

    Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects.

    Me- basically, it alll gets ya high, wooptydo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Since you're obv a pothead I'll show you what the link YOU posted says:::

    "Myth: Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past. Adults who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s fail to realize that when today's youth use marijuana they are using a much more dangerous drug.

    Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects."

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::


    And THIS kids, is why you don't use drugs - this fucker doesn't even know what point he is trying to make.
    i just fucked you up bad in my above post, YOU apparently have no idea what YOU"RE talkin about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyone View Post
    UMMM OK LETS BREAK IT DOWN....excerpt from the website below...

    Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s.

    ME-Ok, yes they are, its weed, its alwasy been weed, will always be weed. Water and sunlight is all you need to grow it.

    A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency.

    ME-What that means is, they used shitty mass grown mexican shwag, which is dirty poorly grown and contains nearly no THC. and compared it to the good homegrown stuff that someone grows a little ofg and take good care of it.

    However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana.

    ME- Kinda goes what what i just said. Newer studies show, that there has always been strong weed, the gov doesnt say that though.

    Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous.

    ME- TRUE, b/c you cant o.d on it, hence why there is concentrates(hash) so you can get wicked high.

    Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects.

    Me- basically, it alll gets ya high, wooptydo
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Since you're obv a pothead I'll show you what the link YOU posted says:::

    "Myth: Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past. Adults who used marijuana in the 1960s and 1970s fail to realize that when today's youth use marijuana they are using a much more dangerous drug.

    Fact: When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects."

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::


    And THIS kids, is why you don't use drugs - this fucker doesn't even know what point he is trying to make.
    You're also making youself look like a tool, it says the DEA used low THC samples and compared them to the good shit, to make it seem liek there was a huge increase, as i previously said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    So again, you walk around the facts, you dont even knwo how to debate, o talk about it.

    Do what i said, search tobacco lungs, and then find me weed lungs do it do it!

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    The funny part is that you're the pothead - I'm not. LOL. Never have smoked, never needed it - never will.

    Have fun changing the law (not) or have fun breaking it.

    You tell me that u agree that weed is getting stronger then post a link that diasgrees with you - LOL. You don't have the IQ for me pothead. LOL. The 1st part of YOUR LINK says "Myth: Marijuana Is More Potent Today Than In The Past" - LOL. That means that YOUR LINK is saying that it's a MYTH - LMFAO. Dummy. Ha ha --- then you come back with you're very own "thecrazyone" interpretation of that paragraph which doesn't even make sense. LOL.... it's people like you who prove OTHER people's point so perfectly. LOL.

    Call your congressman - see what he can do for ya.
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