I do not want some1 working on my car that smoke spot.
I don't want some1 teaching my daughter that smokes pot.
I do not want some1 flying my plane that smokes pot.
I do not want some1 that works at my bank that smokes pot.
I can go on - but you get the point.
--> There are LOTS of people who do not smoke pot JUST bc it's illegal even though they want to - and I like it that way.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
I believe marijuana should be legal and just CONTROLLED just like cigarettes and alcohol. Tax the shit out of it and BAM there's another form of revenue for the government (yea yea I know easier said then done).
Baby J,
You don't want those people to smoke weed, but many of them drink. What's your feelings on that? Teachers taking a shot after a long day of teaching. Mechanics having a few beers in the fridge at the shop. Pilots going to the bar between flights. A teller having a ladies night out with her girls getting drinks bought for them. The argument against alcohol is just as strong as weed (if not stronger), yet it's just an controlled substance. Plus, it's related to many (which is an understatement) deaths. The only "one-up" alcohol has on weed is it's legal, but that's just my opinion.
From personal experiences (I'm a professional student LOL), I have been around both drunks and potheads. Weed smokers tend to be more laid back, chilled, and hungry (LOL). I never seen one start a fight or anything crazy. They do tend to talk really crazy though. As for drunks, the ranged from passed-out to loud/rude and acting real crazy (fighting and such). So I would rather be around a people smoking then drinking (minus the smell).
(And this is coming from a person that has been drug free since birth, and will always be.)
Fact: Weed smokers in the USA, who do not have a prescription, practice bad judgment.Originally Posted by bigdare23
He probably doesn't want someone teaching his kid who regularly shows bad judgment by choosing to break the law. Imagine that crazy thought.
Alcohol is legal, weed is illegal - that is not opinion, that is fact.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Can't argue the fact that it's illegal
Let's looking at speeders. 85mph in a 65mph zone, what are they thinking. I hope teacher never speed, since speeders "practice bad judgment" daily. See how your comment can be flipped. Shit even drug free people use bad judgment on a daily basis. I pretty sure you don't do everything strictly by the book, but that doesn't automatically mean you "practice bad judgment".
Lets see your thought process. Lets even the playing field. Let's say alcohol and weed are both illegal or both legal. How would you feel then? Is weed worse than alcohol only because it's illegal? Or are you more concern about the effects of smoking weed? (Or are you just going to discredit this paragraph and not answer because weed isn't legal?)
Like I said before, I'm drug free. So weed being legal or illegal wont bother me one bit. It's just hypocritical that people the want to keep weed illegal, while alcohol intoxicated people continue to kill innocent people. So my stand in this argument is, if weed is illegal, alcohol should be also. Can anyone give me a reason why alcohol should be legal while weed isn't?
Can't argue the fact that it's illegal
Let's looking at speeders. 85mph in a 65mph zone, what are they thinking
Lets see your thought process. Lets even the playing field. Let's say alcohol and weed are both illegal or both legal. How would you feel then? Is weed worse than alcohol only because it's illegal? Or are you more concern about the effects of smoking weed? (Or are you just going to discredit this paragraph and not answer because weed isn't legal?)
Like I said before, I'm drug free. So weed being legal or illegal wont bother me one bit. It's just hypocritical that people the want to keep weed illegal, while alcohol intoxicated people continue to kill innocent people. So my stand in this argument is, if weed is illegal, alcohol should be also. Can anyone give me a reason why alcohol should be legal while weed isn't?
Speeding is not a chemical that impairs a person's brain process. Drugs and alcohol are. Compare apples to apple, not oranges. Conciously breaking a law to smoke something that impairs your judgment is not something that would fail under common sense thinking.
If alcohol was illegal, I'd answer the same way for alcohol. Legalize weed, and it will be the same as alcohol. Abuse either and you go to jail.
I don't care if they make weed legal, or if they make alcohol illegal. Currently though, weed is illegal, and alcohol is legal, so any other arguments are moot.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Now this is going to be fun
Are you 100% sure? Why do people speed? A. To get from point A to point B, and/or B. To get a rush (I bet you fall in this category since I see a bike in your avatar). How do they get that rush? It's because their body release an increase amount of hormone called Epinephrine (aka adrenaline). People can become overwhelm by this hormone (aka natural drug) that can "impairs a person's brain process" (ever see a minor confrontation turn into a fist fight, I bet adrenaline had something to do with it
"Drugs and alcohol are"
Thanks for helping me prove my point.
"Compare apples to apple, not oranges."
I think not (refer back to my first paragraph)
Not necessary, look back to prohibition days. They continued to drink, produce, and smuggle alcohol, and look what that led to...........legalizing it. I guess those rebels lack "common sense thinking". Now to think, after you get home, you can lay back, put your feet up, and "pop you a cold one" all because of those people who lacked "common sense thinking".
Time for the head shot....
I agree with you 100%!!! If it's illegal don't do the shit, but that's not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of this thread is should marijuana be illegal. The argument "marijuana is illegal" does not justify WHY IT SHOULD BE illegal. It justify why people shouldn't do marijuana. So throw that argument out the window in this debate. If you want to use the statement "it's impedes your judgment", cool
If you against legalizing weed, I hope you don't drink
Are you 100% sure? Why do people speed? A. To get from point A to point B, and/or B. To get a rush (I bet you fall in this category since I see a bike in your avatar
"Drugs and alcohol are"
Thanks for helping me prove my point.
"Compare apples to apple, not oranges."
I think not (refer back to my first paragraph)
Not necessary, look back to prohibition days. They continued to drink, produce, and smuggle alcohol, and look what that led to...........legalizing it. I guess those rebels lack "common sense thinking". Now to think, after you get home, you can lay back, put your feet up, and "pop you a cold one" all because of those people who lacked "common sense thinking".
Time for the head shot....
I agree with you 100%!!! If it's illegal don't do the shit, but that's not the purpose of this thread. The purpose of this thread is should marijuana be illegal. The argument "marijuana is illegal" does not justify WHY IT SHOULD BE illegal. It justify why people shouldn't do marijuana. So throw that argument out the window in this debate. If you want to use the statement "it's impedes your judgment", cool
If you against legalizing weed, I hope you don't drink
I do not fall into an "adrenaline" category. I don't ride my bike for a rush.
The AMA does not agree with your assessment of natually-produced adrenaline and impairment. http://jama.ama-assn.org They do have many studies and articles concerning impairment due to marijauna use.
Natural adrenaline is not the same as inhaling a foreign substance. Again, apple trees do not bear oranges.
As I said before, I do not care if weed is legal or illegal, nor does it matter to me if alcohol is legal or illegal. I do not require either to exist or enjoy life.
If they legalize marijuana, I am fine with it. But it is not legal right now, so defending the use of it is pointless.
Alcohol can be just as bad as marijuana, I do not disagree with that. Either can be abused, but if I choose to drink a beer and do not go over the legal limit, I am not going to jail. That is better judgment than possessing an item that will send you straight to a cell.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Controlled? You mean controlled like alcohol? Like teenagers getting drunk and killing people/themselves on the road? Kids dieing of cancer from cigarettes? Controlled like the gov is controlling guns --- 9 year olds taking handguns to school and killing people? Please tell me that you are referring to a different type of control. Our gov can't control anything - one of the best efforts they have at doing so is making something illegal w/ stiff penalties to pay if those laws are broken.
The simple fact is that there are LOTS of people who don't speed JUST b/c the speed limit is posted on a sign beside the road. There are LOTS of people who don't drink and drive JUST b/c it's illegal. Legalizing marijuana would force employers to do the job that the government should be doin - firing people who are drug addicts... there goes more people on unemployment who want to stay home and get high while my tax dollars pays for it. There goes more crime b/c the unemployed feel they need a life of crime to make ends meet. There goes the service industry b/c the dummy on the other end of the phone at Bank of America is too high to know where to transfer my money. There goes doctors being corrupt and writing bogus (even moreso than now) prescriptions for each other as well as the general dumbass public. I could go on.
You make some good points on paper - but that is not realistic IMO. I don't know of a better solution than leaving this as it is.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
Most people who drink don't go to work drunk, why do you think people who smoke would be high at work? I'd lose my job if I showed up drunk just the same as if I'd lose it if I showed up high.
For the record, I don't smoke. But if it were legal and there wasn't the risk of losing my job and financial aid, I'd probably use it now and then to help with my insomnia, which is currently un-treated because I don't like pills. Weed really doesn't do much to me besides make me sleepy, and its probably better for me in the long run than sleeping pills or whatever.
You're assuming that every person that drinks automatically gets drunk. If I have a wine or two with dinner, I am still sober.
However, all weed smokers WILL get high.. that is the purpose of smoking weed. Otherwise you would be smoking cigs.
Therein lies the difference.
I got free clear tails with my ride.....
Just as you can get nothing from drinking one beer or you can get shitty after drinking a fifth of liquor, there are varying degrees of intoxication for MJ according to how much is used and the individual's tolerance to it. Also, the effects of MJ don't last nearly as long. You can be stoned out of your gourd and be fine a half hour later, whereas with booze you stay drunk for hours, and you might feel groggy/hungover the next day.
Hell cigarettes affect brain chemistry too, and if you smoke enough tobacco you'll get high from that as well.
That disagrees with many published studies from doctors. Here is one:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...urcetype=HWCIT
Many more on JAMA.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Too late, they already do.
Originally Posted by BABY J
I do not want some1 working on my car that smoke spot.
I don't want some1 teaching my daughter that smokes pot.
I do not want some1 flying my plane that smokes pot.
I do not want some1 that works at my bank that smokes pot.
I can go on - but you get the point.
--> There are LOTS of people who do not smoke pot JUST bc it's illegal even though they want to - and I like it that way.
Replace "smokes pot" in your above statement with "watches Glenn Beck," or "drinks alcohol," or "eats mayonnaise" and you'll see how I feel and how a lot of people feel. In the end you can't pick and choose every little thing that every person you turn to for a good or service does.
The fact that its illegal doesn't deter anyone from smoking pot. Its really part of the appeal of the rebellious lifestyle for kids nowadays, and if you were to legalize it in a managed fashion similar to Europe and Canada it would lose some of that appeal.
It may not deter the dim witted or the career students, but I can assure you that that fact alone deters a VERY great many people, myself included. For those of us with real jobs, the possibility of being drug tested is enough to keep me from ever smoking again.
Its the possibility of being tested and subsequently losing your job thats the deterrent though, not just that its illegal. "Career students" who smoke are at tremendous risk too because even the smallest possession bust can cause them to lose just about any form of financial aid/scholarship.
I'm not saying that every airplane pilot or train conductor should go out and get blazed before going to work. In the event of legalization there will be standards for certain professions who have jobs where safety is a concern. Alcohol is perfectly legal, but airline pilots and train conductors are forbidden from being intoxicated while on the job, I don't think legalized pot would be any different.
Now for the 10k question. Why is that test a deterrent? Answer, cause its illegal.
This idea that just because people do it anyways it should be legal is complete BS. I dont want to hear about alcohol or cigs either as I completely understand that there is no reason for them to be legal and weed not to be. I dont understand it, but all I can say is that they are both longstanding item in our society whereas weed is not. I know it has been used for hundreds of years, but the US is a European like society and it was not used in Europe until relatively recently.
hey..... apply for a job in palmdale ca with a prescription for pot.....and you wont get the job....
get hurt in palmdale...with a prescription for pot and get tested positive.....lose your job....
its not okay to do drugs.... period....
that goes for loratab
oxycontin
codine
and so on......
get off the dope and grow up a bit..... granted alcohol just doesnt cut it... and weed might be great and all.... i wont argue.....
but... being sober and clean with a great job is a hell of alot better than being able to roll one and put it in the air.
if you got a great job and are making tons of money and can smoke dope..... sweet.....
get popped or arrested for possesion and see how long your job lasts.
thats the issue right there
Too late for all of that. Sorry most of your service providers are smoking pot. And some are high on the job and you dont even know it. Ive worked at several auto shops and its rare u find a tech that doesnt smoke. and some did their best work high. its just how society is. I have hung out with doctors that smoke, teachers, managers, etc. they may not do it on the job(some may) but the fact is they smoke pot. it doesnt make them any less succesful or smarter.
I am a former avid user of marijuana. I dont smoke right now, beacause i no longer have the time, money, or desire to smoke. I maintained a 3.6 GPA at gwinnett tech, and graduated with honors. It didnt make me slack in school, be lazy a bout work, etc. Those are PERSONALITY FLAWS. Marijuana is bad because its illegal. If we swap marijuana and alocohol, then the argument would reverse, just alcohol would lose horribly. Marijuana was given a bad light by racism, and corporations not wanting to lose money to its many uses for textile production and the fact pharmaceutical companies couldnt regulate it. do some research.
Quoted for truth. Look these are the reasons its not legal right now:
1. Marijuana is a natural Medicine. It has been medically proven to help with over 200 ailments. This is a fact.
2. The molecular make up of the plant is a compound molecule that several other pharmaceutical drugs have taken parts of out of Marijuana and are on the market right now. Specifically anti depressants, and numerous others. Those of you against it, may realized that you are taking parts of the drug right now, but because it was broken down in a test tube and branded as something else, its ok, in your eyes and the government.
3. The Pharmaceutical industry is the #1 money making industry in America making over 960 Billion dollars a year. A natural drug that you can take, and helps with over 200 ailments would put a dent in this business. So even the money they would make from taxing it would not make up for the loss of business.
4. What business in America is the Government trying to take over right now. The Health care industry. So they would prefer you take all these other "legal" drugs that they can charge you for, that one that is dirt cheap to make yourself.
5. What is the #2 money making business in America. Private Prisons. In the last 20 years just the state of Texas has built over 70 new prisions. ~80% of all people incarcerated in the USA are for drugs. Roughly 4/5 of these are for Marijuana. Its big business. Plus if the government was to go back and legalized weed, they would have to admit that the ~7 Billion dollars a year that goes into "war on drugs" would be mostly a mistake. They would have to free up several people in prison for selling and/or growing Marijuana. This wont happen. We all know the Government wont admit they are wrong about anything, especially something they profit off of so well. Also The USA has more people per capita incarcerated than any other nation in the world. That is a fact. Even more so than the conflict in Africa a few years ago with the whole "blood diamonds." That is astronomical!
Also there has never been even 1 person who has died directly from Marijuana. Not one. So dont put it in the same category with meth, coke etc. To give you an idea, there are 5 million people that die every year from cigarettes world wide. Would i like to see Marijuana legalized. Absolutely! for medicine, for the strong fibers it would make and replace cotton, for the biofuel it can make and replace gas, etc. It is one of the most useful plants in the world. However I dont think it will happen in the USA because it would effect too many things.
Last edited by 99hatch; 02-08-2010 at 04:53 PM.
What a great write up, look at it this way, in 1996 when Cali legalized medical use, 10 other states starting writing bills for medical use, they see the use's, so hopefully they will follow suit when Cali fully legalizes.
Please cite your reference for your statement "It has been medically proven to help with over 200 ailments. This is a fact." - The AMA does not appear to have this knowledge through it's vast studies. I'm sure that they would benefit from this information.
What antidepressent drugs have been made from marijuana?
I agree that hemp is one of the most useful plants in the world. I would like to see other uses for it as well, besides smoking.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
So, the original question was - "Why is marijuana not legalized"
The following resources provide information about marijuana and why it remains a controlled substance (this list is from the White House website):
- Legalization as a Non-Starter
- Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base
- Medical Marijuana Fact Sheet
- California City and County Listing of Illegal Store Front Ordinances
- Marijuana Myths & Facts: The Truth Behind 10 Popular Misperceptions
- What Americans Need to Know About Marijuana
- Denial of Marijuana Rescheduling
- The DEA Position on Marijuana
Medical uses? - Not according to the American Council for Drug Education
http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm
"There is, however, no solid evidence that smoking marijuana creates any greater benefits than approved medications (including oral THC) now used to treat these patients, relieve their suffering, or mitigate the side effects of their treatment. Anecdotal assertions of beneficial effects have yet to be confirmed by controlled scientific research."
What would the American Medical Association, the US Government, the American Council for Drug Education, the Drug Enforcement Agency, etc, know about the subject compared to a self-educated 22 year old, right? Surely, their funded controlled scientific studies cannot be compared to the smoke-it-at-home studies that you and your friend's conduct every weekend, right?
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
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http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/Dr...uriya_list.htm
This is your best attempt yet to cite a reputable source. Here are the problems with it though:
1) The site is run by Dr. Jay Cavanaugh - who has not practiced since 1990.
2) He quotes Dr. Mikuriya, while a very educated doctor, died in 2007, and is obviously not practicing.
3) Dr. Mikuriya's book, where the list comes from, was citing O'Shaughnessy who introduced marijuana into the Western pharmacopoeia in 1839, the drug was promptly recommended for an utterly endless list of disorders - which is the list you have referenced.
The rationale for Dr. Mikuriya's book appears to be the editor's conviction that medicine should "rediscover" therapeutic uses of marijuana. In an attempt to buttress this thesis, he compiled 25 of the "better professional journal articles" from the past 133 years that pertain to various medicinal or scientific aspects of the drug. Most articles describe personal experiences, therapeutic applications with patients, acute clinical studies, or chemical and pharmacological endeavors.
I suggest that you find a list that the AMA current supports, not claims from non-practicing doctors. BTW - that doesn't exist.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
PLEASE look over my post below instead of skipping it!
You and your AMA, how hard did you look? cause i found....
Results. The cannabis sativa plant contains more than 60 unique structurally related chemicals
(phytocannabinoids). Thirteen states have enacted laws to remove state-level criminal penalties for possessing marijuana for qualifying patients, however the federal government refuses to recognize that the cannabis plant has an accepted medical benefit. Despite the public controversy, less than 20 small randomized controlled trials of short duration involving ~300 patients have been conducted over the last 35 years on smoked cannabis. Many others have been conducted on FDA-approved oral preparations of THC and synthetic analogues, and more recently on botanical extracts of cannabis. Federal court cases have upheld the privileges of doctor-patient discussions on the use of cannabis for medicinal purposes but also preserved the right of the federal government to prosecute patients using cannabis for medicinal purposes. Efforts to reschedule marijuana from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act have been unsuccessful to date. Disagreements persist about the long term consequences of marijuana use for medicinal purposes
Conclusions. Results of short term controlled trials indicate that smoked cannabis reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and caloric intake especially in patients with reduced muscle mass, and may relieve spasticity and pain in patients with multiple sclerosis. However, the patchwork of state-based systems that have been established for “medical marijuana” is woefully inadequate in establishing even rudimentary safeguards that normally would be applied to the appropriate clinical use of psychoactive substances. The future of cannabinoid-based medicine lies in the rapidly evolving field of botanical drug substance development, as well as the design of molecules that target various aspects of the endocannabinoid system. To the extent that rescheduling marijuana out of Schedule I will benefit this effort, such a move can be supported
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upl...eport3-i09.pdf
This one's good to
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upl...43/csaa-01.pdf
It talks about the AMA wanting more studies done on marijuana b/c they know there is medical benefits.
"What they are doing is showing respect for the rights of states to make decisions about the health and welfare of their citizens," said Bruce Mirken, a spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project. "Health is generally regulated on a state level, and there's a growing collection of medical literature documenting that [marijuana] is, for some people, effective and safe."
American Medical Association policy calls for further clinical research into the safety and efficacy of medical marijuana for... patients.
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/200...3/prse1123.htm
another good read^^^
It is time to re-examine whether marijuana should be legally categorized as a schedule I drug, the AMA House of Delegates said at its Interim Meeting.
The goal of such a review is to facilitate "the conduct of clinical research and development of cannabinoid-based medicines and alternate delivery methods," says the newly adopted house policy.
The current scheduling"limits the access to cannabinols for even research -- it is very difficult," said AMA Board of Trustees member Edward L. Langston, MD, a Lafayette, Ind., family physician. "We believe there should be a scientific review of cannabinols in the treatment of pain and other issues. ... We support research on the use of cannabinols for medical use."
"Schedule I is very appropriate for heroin and other noxious substances that have no place in medicine, but cannabinoids are useful drugs," said Melvyn Sterling, MD, a palliative care doctor and California Medical Assn. delegate who spoke on his own behalf. "There is compelling research that cannabinoids are helpful in treating the spasticity associated with multiple sclerosis and in persistent nausea associated with chemotherapy, and they may have other uses yet undiscovered. Why are they undiscovered? Because it's a schedule I drug."
Prevalence of Marijuana Use
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint...urcetype=HWCIT
Does Marijuana Use Cause the Use of Other Drugs? (gateway theory debunked by JAMA)
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...urcetype=HWCIT
Therapeutic Marijuana Use Supported While Thorough Proposed Study Done
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...urcetype=HWCIT
I can go on and one, the evidence is in, and JAMA knows it, MMJ is a good thing, but they have to battle with the DEA, to even do studies on it.
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