View Poll Results: Who is your Favorite President

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  • Richard Nixon

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  • Gerald Ford

    1 2.38%
  • Jimmy Carter

    1 2.38%
  • Ronald Reagan

    16 38.10%
  • George H.W. Bush

    3 7.14%
  • Bill Clinton

    11 26.19%
  • George W. Bush

    8 19.05%
  • Barry Obama

    2 4.76%
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    Bush adding "very little" to national debt?

    The bullshit is piling up here... hooooooo boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Bush adding "very little" to national debt?

    The bullshit is piling up here... hooooooo boy.
    In 1 year Obama has added more to the national debt than Bush did in any 4 year span of his presidency. So I guess you could say Bush added very little to the national debt in comparison to Obama.


    Article from 2004, it seems dems have really changed their tune since then.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/03/bush.budget/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Bush adding "very little" to national debt?

    The bullshit is piling up here... hooooooo boy.
    Watch this you might actually learn something.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc

    Bush lead a war for 7 years, to only spend that amount. So in comparison yes he spent very little. Obama on the other hand is taking the war to other area's, then still spending in other area's, on top of giving money away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Bush adding "very little" to national debt?

    The bullshit is piling up here... hooooooo boy.
    Obama spent more this year than ANY OTHER PRESIDENT COMBINED.

    Bush dealt with Hurricane Katrina, 9/11, 2 wars, expansion of Govt, etc and didnt spend near what Obama has spent (And BUSH did TARP at the END of his presidency).

    Again you need to educate yourself.

    But im sure your response will be that OBAMA had to spend money because it was all Bushs fault. But thats NOT the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Obama spent more this year than ANY OTHER PRESIDENT COMBINED.

    Bush dealt with Hurricane Katrina, 9/11, 2 wars, expansion of Govt, etc and didnt spend near what Obama has spent (And BUSH did TARP at the END of his presidency).

    Again you need to educate yourself.

    But im sure your response will be that OBAMA had to spend money because it was all Bushs fault. But thats NOT the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    But im sure your response will be that OBAMA had to spend money because it was all Bushs fault. But thats NOT the argument.
    1.) I thought Bush was supposed to be against the expansion of gov't? Oh, right he responded to a crisis by creating a cabinet department.

    2.) Bush entered office with a surplus, which he then wasted as a stimulus check. He should have used that money when/where it was actually needed.

    3.) Iraq was completely un-necessary to the objective of fighting Al Qaeda. So all that Iraq spending was waste.

    4.) Whether or not he did TARP at the beginning or end of his presidency, it still stands to reason that TARP is W's policy.

    As for Obama's spending, you do have a point about how he's spent more than any other president, but since the previous administration pretty much caused a new Great Depression with all the de-regulation and predatory trading I can see the need for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    1.) I thought Bush was supposed to be against the expansion of gov't? Oh, right he responded to a crisis by creating a cabinet department.
    I didn't like the police state bush was moving toward but it was the price to pay to feel secure IMO. I never said I was a fan of the expansion of govt under him, but in fairness it wasn't about entitlements and handouts it was homeland security.

    2.) Bush entered office with a surplus, which he then wasted as a stimulus check. He should have used that money when/where it was actually needed.
    this is complete bullshit absorbed by the left. Clinton reduced the Deficit, he didn't create a surplus.

    A surplus would assume you had no debt to begin with. If you owe 5 trillion, and after one year you owe 4 trillion, does that mean you have 1 trillion surplus now? Not really. It's not a credit card.

    Furthermore if you want to use the liberal statistics at most it was 230billion. Bush cut checks in the forms of tax breaks to middle class, while mediocre, still worked, then 9/11 hit. You know his first budget,like Obama, doesn't go into effect until October?

    3.) Iraq was completely un-necessary to the objective of fighting Al Qaeda. So all that Iraq spending was waste.
    revisionist history. We didn't go to Iraq to fight alqaeda. 80%+ congress approved the war with bush yet they all get a free pass.

    We went to Iraq because saddam defied the un for 12 years, threatened us, supplied or provided haven for al qaeda , we had intel there was WMDs there, bush wanted a democractic country in the region to try and infect capitalism into the area to turn the Islamic regimists away from violence.


    4.) Whether or not he did TARP at the beginning or end of his presidency, it still stands to reason that TARP is W's policy.
    You missed the point. He did TARP at the end of his presidency. Like September 2008 (election was nov). Meaning he tacked on 800 billion in his last 3 months lol imagine if he had nit don't that. Compared to Obama he spent very very little
    As for Obama's spending, you do have a point about how he's spent more than any other president, but since the previous administration pretty much caused a new Great Depression with all the de-regulation and predatory trading I can see the need for it.
    again liberal leftist crap. So Barney frank and Chris dodd and Fannie and Freddie had nothiv to do with this at all? Republicans wanting regulation in 2002-2004 with cspan vids to back it up don't mean anything I guess.

    Bush fault was artificially keeping interest rates low with the fed. That's it the rest was your dems trying to give everyone a loan to buy votes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    again liberal leftist crap. So Barney frank and Chris dodd and Fannie and Freddie had nothiv to do with this at all? Republicans wanting regulation in 2002-2004 with cspan vids to back it up don't mean anything I guess.

    Bush fault was artificially keeping interest rates low with the fed. That's it the rest was your dems trying to give everyone a loan to buy votes
    Also, don't forget it Clinton was big on creating a program for homeowners, it was Clinton's administration that had us doing sub-prime loans in the first place. He wanted everyone to have a house, even if they couldn't afford it.

    W got stuck cleaning up that mess, also, let's not forget, W was only president 8 months before 9/11. What this means, is he was too new to do anything really about it. It was Clinton's administration which reduced the military and reduced intelligence operations so that we were vulnerable to an attack in the first place. Liberals are quick to blame everyone but themselves with no facts to back their claims up.

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    Just sayin...... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesClues View Post
    Just sayin...... lol
    What are you just saying? Someone with a cardboard sign, a black marker and a print out of Bush makes that true? People do the same with Obama, they did that with Reagan. Probably with Clinton and Bush 1, I don't know I can't remember. Doesn't make it a true statement.

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