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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    What are you talking about? Alaska runs on a fiscal surplus which is why they pay their citizens, I guess thats why Palin felt it was okay to bill the state for nights she was at home.
    To be fair, she did save the Alaskan taxpayers half her salary.

    Jimmy, your responses are typical Republican talking points.

    1.) Higher taxes? Only on the filthy rich... fuck 'em they can afford it.

    2.) Job cuts? I don't see it, given that the gov't will also be paying subsidies to small businesses to help them cover their employees. Employees under a certain amount will also be covered by medicaid, so that coverage won't necessarily be on the employers.

    3.) Rationing... the proposed cuts are add-on benefits like gym memberships and such.

    4.) I don't know what exactly you mean by "He barely even started his term before he started campaigning." Most candidates start campaigning before they are elected, not after they start their terms.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    1.) Higher taxes? Only on the filthy rich... fuck 'em they can afford it.
    You know what amazes me is that everyone strives to become millionaires and yet there is a resentment to somehow "punish" them with taxes because they have more money. Why?! Seriously, I want to be a millionaire one day and I can stand to be in a higher tax bracket, but why tax for the sake to pay for so many other's "benefits" against your own will or choice. That my friend is stealing and tyranny. But tax those rich people, darn them... how dare they make more money and be successful. They are evil rich people, we must punish them with taxes. (but deep under my breath... i want to be like them *giggle*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahabion View Post
    You know what amazes me is that everyone strives to become millionaires and yet there is a resentment to somehow "punish" them with taxes because they have more money. )
    Its not to "punish" them, its to have a more equal sharing of the tax burden. Right now the lower brackets are stiffed with a disproportionate share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Its not to "punish" them, its to have a more equal sharing of the tax burden. Right now the lower brackets are stiffed with a disproportionate share.
    You might want to look at who is getting stiffed again.

    The top 10% of income tax payers make something like 60% of the money and pay about 75% of the taxes. The bottom 50% make something like 30% of the money and pay like 2% of the income taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post

    I'm sure you came up with that acronym all by yourself. How creative and original.
    I hate when people do shit like this. If you don't know shit, don't post. Especially something like that. The reason you rarely see my name in here is because I don't know shit about politics. And I don't like to talk about something that I don't know about. And I won't go to Wikipedia for my points. If I don't know it, then i won't post it.

    I admit it, too, I don't know shit about politics. I honestly wish I did, but I never paid any attention to it. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Jimmy, your responses are typical Republican talking points.
    Everything you say is nothing but a talking point. You NEVER have anything to back up your responses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    1.) Higher taxes? Only on the filthy rich... fuck 'em they can afford it.
    Envy is such a terrible thing. Maybe we should be doing more to punish those that make no effort to succeed in life and just live off the system and quit punishing those that do work hard to succeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    2.) Job cuts? I don't see it, given that the gov't will also be paying subsidies to small businesses to help them cover their employees. Employees under a certain amount will also be covered by medicaid, so that coverage won't necessarily be on the employers.
    If you force a business to add additional costs, and they cannot make up those additional costs by raising prics, they have to save the money somewhere. That means either the business doesnt grow as the owner hopes, or the business shrinks. When a business shrinks, that means jobs are cut. About 80% of the people employed in the US are employed by small businesses. Those are the people that are going to be affected by this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    3.) Rationing... the proposed cuts are add-on benefits like gym memberships and such.
    Those cuts will go FAR deeper than that. Adding up all of the proposed cuts wont even cover the added amount of fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    4.) I don't know what exactly you mean by "He barely even started his term before he started campaigning." Most candidates start campaigning before they are elected, not after they start their terms.
    Are you really this stupid or are you just acting like this to avoid the truth? Obama was elected into the Senate and served in that capacity for about a year before he was campaigning for President full time. Does your job allow you to take paid time off to look for a better job?


    BTW, this should apply to ANYONE running for a seat that they do not already hold. If a Congressman is going to run for a seat in the Senate, they should be forced to give up their seat first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Does your job allow you to take paid time off to look for a better job?


    BTW, this should apply to ANYONE running for a seat that they do not already hold. If a Congressman is going to run for a seat in the Senate, they should be forced to give up their seat first.
    Actually, my job does allow me to take paid time off to look for another job. I can use my paid vacation days to go to interviews and the like.

    I sort of agree with you that those in Congress should vacate their seats before they run for other offices though... if they are in Congress they should be devoting their full attention to their offices there. Thats not a left or a right issue, both parties are guilty of this and have been in pretty much every single election in this country ever.

    But this past election both candidates did suspend their campaigning for a week to "fix the economy". Not that that worked out very well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post

    But this past election both candidates did suspend their campaigning for a week to "fix the economy". Not that that worked out very well...
    Rhetoric from both sides, I thought that whole thing was bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Rhetoric from both sides, I thought that whole thing was bullshit.

    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Rhetoric from both sides, I thought that whole thing was bullshit.
    Something I think we can all agree on. The TARP, the stimulus, and all of the other so called jobs plans have proven to be nothing more than congress spending money we dont have, just to say they are doing something.

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