MoH Receipient Can't Fly A Flag

[Total_Blender]

White House says "it's silly"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...-vet-fly-flag/

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Every one of these headlines (and the tone of Fox's article on it) make it seem as if the Col. is being prevented from displaying the flag, which is not true. The HOA said he could display a smaller flag from his porch. This is about the flagpole and its impact on property values.

I really hope Obama does not comment on this and make it an issue. I think "Joe the Plumber" and the "beer summit" set the wrong precedent... any moke with a minor grievance can now get the forces of the right-wing blogosphere behind them and eventually get the president's ear.

I'm still waiting for the president to issue a statement about my neighbors at the duplex leaving their cigarette butts all over the place.

[Type-R]

Every one of these headlines (and the tone of Fox's article on it) make it seem as if the Col. is being prevented from displaying the flag, which is not true. The HOA said he could display a smaller flag from his porch. This is about the flagpole and its impact on property values.

I really hope Obama does not comment on this and make it an issue. I think "Joe the Plumber" and the "beer summit" set the wrong precedent... any moke with a minor grievance can now get the forces of the right-wing blogosphere behind them and eventually get the president's ear.

I'm still waiting for the president to issue a statement about my neighbors at the duplex leaving their cigarette butts all over the place.

I watched Gibbs on TV commenting this, they specificly mentioned that it's silly to not allow him have the flag pole in his yard to properly display the flag he loves and gave so much for

Your duplex doesn't warrent the Presidents attention. Col. Barfoot received his medal from a U.S. President. Different status levels there.

[Total_Blender]

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Your duplex doesn't warrent the Presidents attention. Col. Barfoot received his medal from a U.S. President. Different status levels there.

I was being hyperbolic. The president has bigger fish to fry right now than get involved in a dispute between some guy and his HOA.

I really don't see how the Col.'s status as a vet makes him exempt from the rules of his HOA. If they let the Col. have a flagpole, they'll have to let everyone have a flagpole. They might not want their neighborhood to look like the United Nations building.

[oneSLOWex]

I was being hyperbolic. The president has bigger fish to fry right now than get involved in a dispute between some guy and his HOA.

I really don't see how the Col.'s status as a vet makes him exempt from the rules of his HOA. If they let the Col. have a flagpole, they'll have to let everyone have a flagpole. They might not want their neighborhood to look like the United Nations building.

What you are saying is if you had done anything anywhere near what he has and simply wanted to display the flag for the country you risked your life for and live in the proper military way you wouldnt put up a fight?

[Total_Blender]

What you are saying is if you had done anything anywhere near what he has and simply wanted to display the flag for the country you risked your life for and live in the proper military way you wouldnt put up a fight?

FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS THEY DIDN'T SAY HE CAN"T DISPLAY THE FLAG.

They are just saying he can't display it on a 20 FOOT POLE.



The first article cited in this thread says that there are other homes in Col.'s neighborhood that display their flags as in the photo I posted above. This isn't about patriotism, censorship, honoring veterans, etc etc. Barfoot CAN display the flag.

Its about one man having it out with his HOA about a 20 foot pole in his front yard.

[oneSLOWex]

FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS THEY DIDN'T SAY HE CAN"T DISPLAY THE FLAG.

They are just saying he can't display it on a 20 FOOT POLE.



The first article cited in this thread says that there are other homes in Col.'s neighborhood that display their flags as in the photo I posted above. This isn't about patriotism, censorship, honoring veterans, etc etc. Barfoot CAN display the flag.

Its about one man having it out with his HOA about a 20 foot pole in his front yard.

You didn't answer my question.

I am not trying to say they said he couldn't fly the flag at all....they are trying to make him take it down from that pole. The way he is displaying the flag is the way he was taught to display it.

[Total_Blender]

You didn't answer my question.
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He doesn't live on a military base or a courthouse square, he lives in a neighborhood with a HOA. If he doesn't like how they run the neighborhood, he can convince his neighbors to remove them, or he can move to a place without a HOA. If he wants to raise a flag military style, maybe he can do it at a public park, a town square, an American Legion, a post office, a school, or a government building where having a large flagpole is practical.

He knew what the rules were, he followed them, but when his request was denied he took it upon himself to do what he wanted anyway. Now he and his internet supporters are asking for special treatment. Epic meh.

This is not to say that I support HOA's, actually I despise them. But I recognize that they do serve a purpose and that there are people who choose to live that way. The Col. himself probably takes pride in knowing he lives in an area where people don't leave their X-mas lights up all year or have cars on blocks in their yards.

[quickdodge®]

What you are saying is if you had done anything anywhere near what he has and simply wanted to display the flag for the country you risked your life for and live in the proper military way you wouldnt put up a fight?

As moral issue, there should be no fight. What this man has done is worthy of being able to fly the Flag in the fashion he is trying to do.

But at the same time, this man did move into an existing neighborhood, fully aware of it's HOA rules. If he wanted to fly his flag in on a pole like that, maybe he should have moved into a house that would allow it.

Now if this ordinance had been put in place AFTER he had already had his flagpole erected, then you have yourself a legit fight.

If he does win this fight, then good for him. It is kind of a stupid rule to have in effect.

Perfect example of why I..... ..... and will never take part of any HOA

You live in an HOA-governed community you will. Later, QD.

[oneSLOWex]

As moral issue, there should be no fight. What this man has done is worthy of being able to fly the Flag in the fashion he is trying to do.

But at the same time, this man did move into an existing neighborhood, fully aware of it's HOA rules. If he wanted to fly his flag in on a pole like that, maybe he should have moved into a house that would allow it.

Now if this ordinance had been put in place AFTER he had already had his flagpole erected, then you have yourself a legit fight.

If he does win this fight, then good for him. It is kind of a stupid rule to have in effect.



You live in an HOA-governed community you will. Later, QD.

There is nothing in their rules saying anything about flagpoles....this whole thing is one person having an issue with it and thinking they can run things how they want it.

In December 2009, the homeowners' association (HOA) of the Sussex Square, where Barfoot lives in Henrico County, Virginia, ordered him to remove the flagpole from which he flies the American flag. The HOA retained Coates & Davenport to help enforce their order.[1] The association's bylaws do not forbid flagpoles, but the HOA ruled Barfoot, aged 90, would not be allowed to use it "for aesthetic reasons". Barfoot is contesting the order.[8][9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_T._Barfoot

[quickdodge®]

There is nothing in their rules saying anything about flagpoles....this whole thing is one person having an issue with it and thinking they can run things how they want it.

In December 2009, the homeowners' association (HOA) of the Sussex Square, where Barfoot lives in Henrico County, Virginia, ordered him to remove the flagpole from which he flies the American flag. The HOA retained Coates & Davenport to help enforce their order.[1] The association's bylaws do not forbid flagpoles, but the HOA ruled Barfoot, aged 90, would not be allowed to use it "for aesthetic reasons". Barfoot is contesting the order.[8][9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_T._Barfoot

Kind of a sticky situation, then (if it isn't specific). One way to really check it out is to see the by-laws. See what it says. And how it explains it in them. I understand the not wanting flagpoles because after a while, most of them tend to start looking like shit. But if this rule isn't too specific, then it needs to be to prevent future occurrences. Later, QD.