go to infowars.com and prisonplanet.com
also you can youtube fall of the republic full movie.
you can learn alot from this
to anyone who really wants to learn alot more about our ....goverment.....
go to infowars.com and prisonplanet.com
also you can youtube fall of the republic full movie.
you can learn alot from this
NO. Just no. Alex Jones is a moron, and his followers are brainwashed douchebags. I don't know what it is that brings out so much anger in these people, but if I had to guess I'd say its a cocktail of racism, homophobia, steroids, and crystal meth. I've busted on him and his spiel in countless other posts, no use re-hashing it out here.
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whatever you say...cause it looks to me as if alot of what he is saying is falling into place.
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The same could be said of all liberals, but of course you wont see it anyway but through your kool-aid filled glasses.
OP, anyone that uses those morons to prove any point, is even more of a moron. You want to know what the govt is doing? READ FOR YOURSELF. Read the bills they are shoving down our throats. Read their op-eds. Watch their voting records. Politicians are very easy to figure out. Their first and only goal is to get re-elected. If someone is helped or hurt in that process, they dont give 2 shits. That is all there is to it.
see insurance reform, it's mo lomger called healthcare reform but insurance reform. and if you cant afford it you can get fined or go to jail. sounds like the gov't is now in the bank business, auto industry and now insurance providers. i dont care for AJ very much but if you see both sides of the story, like the CNN one and his you can make a judgement on whats going on. this country is going to hell in a hand basket and fast. buy more ammo!!!!
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You were the one who posted AJ/Infowars/prisonplanet content in every single thread a few months ago. What inspired the change of heart?
The second I hear the name Alex Jones brought up I just count everything that follows as BS. I wouldn't compare him on equal consideration with CNN or even Comedy Central. If I had to compare him to anything on TV, I'd compare him to that home shopping show that comes on at 3am where the guy sells knives. Both are idiots trying to convince people they need more weapons.
I think the same thing when someone mentions Keith Olbermann. He is good for some laughs though. According to him, anyone that attends West Point is an enemy to the President.
i never fully quoted and supported AJ, and to hell with glen beck. i pointed out certain points and that did not seem right. go back and check all my posts and you will see that even some were brought up for opinion, not full blown support. there is no change of heart towards him, just the info streams out there to become educated. btw glemm beck can jump off a building with no parachute and splat!!!You were the one who posted AJ/Infowars/prisonplanet content in every single thread a few months ago. What inspired the change of heart?
The second I hear the name Alex Jones brought up I just count everything that follows as BS. I wouldn't compare him on equal consideration with CNN or even Comedy Central. If I had to compare him to anything on TV, I'd compare him to that home shopping show that comes on at 3am where the guy sells knives. Both are idiots trying to convince people they need more weapons.
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You're an asshat. How about that? Seriously, are you five years old? I've only been on these boards a little while, but I've never seen you make a single formal logical retort. Instead, you immediately write off everything with personal attacks. Grow up.
Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem. Go back to the GW thread and reread my posts. I posted quite a bit of evidence refuting your claims. Yes, it is just the Internet. I can garuntee you that you wouldn't speak the way you do if we were discussing this in person.
Whether I'm a Jones fan or not is irrelevant. I'd just like the see more rational debate and less childish name calling. You seem to be about the only person doing this.
New World Order.
Alex Jones has made some decent documents, but others that are pretty ridiculous.
My take on the whole concept of these "conspiracy theories" is this:
People can't agree on anything. We're not capable of a world government unless there was an external threat to galvanize us like E.T.'s.
The thought of all the rifts that would have to be mended in order to achieve a world government is a comedy of Matt Stone/Trey Parker proportions.
Chinese - Tibet
North Korea - South Korea
Dems vs Republicans
Pakistan - India
Muslims - The West
The list is endless.
That being said, a world government would be better for the most powerful, and detrimental to the least powerful, if it were to happen. Which is why it won't... because the people who it would hurt will fight you tooth and nail.
So with that I would like to place a NWO order. A Pepsi or Coke, and chips please!!
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I will say anything I have said about Alex Jones to anyone's face including Jones himself. I haven't encountered any Jones fans in person though, as I just don't travel in that circle.
I probably wouldn't be as inflammatory in person as I have been on the forums, most of it is just a response to the way I'm treated here. I'm pretty much the only left-oriented person who posts here consistently, so I catch a lot of flack.
For me, it has nothing to do with your stance on the issue. It is the fact that you resort to name calling instead of putting any effort into being civil.
We already have a world govt. it is called the UN, and we all know how well that is working for everyone.
Jones has some good things to say, read what he talks about with the FED and other organizations.
I dont buy the 9/11 conspiracy stuff at all.
I dont particularly like his slant on some of the stuff he talks about.
The Obama Conspiracy was a pretty good film, lots of interesting stuff whether it is true or not. The clips of Rahm will make you cringe thats for sure
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I cant believe Beck gets such bad criticism. Read his books, or listen to what he says "without the dramatics".
yes hes over the top and sometimes he beats a dead horse, but A LOT of the stuff he does talk about there is a lot of truth behind it.
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Beck is probably the smartest of the news commentators out there. He understands the govt, and the political mind as well as anyone. His dramatics do get old though and thats the reason I cant listen to/watch his show often.
His substance i really understand, and he presents it in a "only if you are a complete moron do you not understand what im saying".
I dont care for his crying or the over-the top dramatics, but purely as "content" i agree with almost everything he has to say.
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I watch Beck on a relatively regular basis and from what I gather, he is simply an entertainer. He picks very ridiculous issues to tout on his show on a weekly basis if not more often. He has just as much slant, if not more, than an Olbermann or a Maddow. For instance, just last week he was discussing some random issue (I'm sure I will recall the topic in just a bit) and he started defending Arabs; defending them from Leftist attacks that essentially called them incompetent. First and foremost, he speaks terribly about Muslims, Arabs, Iraqis on a VERY regular basis. Secondly, in the very next breath he called the Allied nations morons.
The guy is consistently hypocritical, just like the others.
Do I think the vehement hatred for him is justified? No, although he does make himself easy to hate with his aforementioned dramatics.
Do I think he is any worse than Olbermann and the like? Possibly, if nothing else, you can count on the left on staying left. This individual bounces around far more than the leftist "entertainers" do.
Personal political viewpoint aside, people should learn to take things this man and others like him with a grain of salt. He has a job to do. He has ratings to grab. That's what he does. I commend him on that. He writes a number of books a year. Sells millions of copies. Hosts a radio show. He is a business man and an entertainer.
He makes huge leaps in logic, logic that is fundamentally slanted and bias.
The stuff he talks about concerning the FED, congress, the falling value of the dollar, seiu, etc all had a tremendous amount of truth to it that no other organization news wise even mentions
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Just because he sells a lot of product and has a lot of viewers doesn't mean he's right. Billy Mays had lot of viewers and sold lots of products too... most of which end up in landfills within 3 weeks.
Glenn Beck is quick to point out that he's "not a journalist" and that he's "an entertainer," but can we really call what he does... scaring people with his crackpot conspiracy theories etc, entertainment?
I will say this... parody of Glenn Beck, now thats entertainment! Cracking jokes about Glenn Beck, and his crying and theatrics, thats entertainment. As a stooge, he's great. But there are people out there who have a blind faith in talk-radio and Fox News commentators, and thats what scary. Thats why the "Glenn Beck Program" itself is not entertainment.
If Beck were on the regular Fox network, maybe in a timeslot between The Simpsons and Family Guy, I could see calling his show "entertainment". But when you put him on a network that calls itself "news" and has a tagline of "fair and balanced" that makes a statement that what is being shown is not entertainment.
And then there are the questions about 1990.... which Glenn Beck refuses to answer.
The fact that there may be a marginal bit of truth only makes him more dangerous in my eyes. People like you and I (VtecKidd), I am assuming you are of reasonable intelligence and take a genuine interest in politics like I do, see Glenn Beck's stories loosely based on sincere truths and we appreciate the fragments of fact. However, I would venture a guess that the average Beck viewer fails to recognize that any of the "information" he spouts is an exaggeration, an embellishment or a downright falsehood. He bases the occasional story on fact in much the same way that Hollywood bases the occasional movie on a true story; sure, it is based on a true story but the main purpose is still to entertain and if the story doesn't live up to the standards Americans require for entertainment, what is one to do? Embellish. He is even more dangerous than if he failed to ever base anything on anything at all. It earns him just enough ardent supporters who will quickly point out the fundamental truths which keeps him afloat.
Ron Paul "talks about concerning the FED, congress, the falling value of the dollar, seiu, etc." Yet, these two individuals aren't saying remotely the same thing. It's not always what you say but how you say it.
^similar feelings. Beck is obnoxious, condescending, and manipulative. He knowingly deceives people by playing on peoples emotions and using half truths. Although he is merely an entertainer, for many people he is considered a political authority. He profits by trying to divide America with an us vs them mentality. The way people treat eachother in politics these days is pretty sickening, very little respect for anyone's point of view that is not your own. He is just fueling the fire.
i will agree with that. I mean i get my information from all sorts of arenas. Not just the "right" or the "left". Not just the USA, not just europe, etc. I will agree with you that
The average voter has no idea what Obama is seeking to do or do to this country because they either A) Lack the intelligence to comprehend it B) just dont care
I will say the average Beck watcher is prob in the same category.
Hell i read Palins book, not because i LIKE HER, but because i like to hear all sides to a story. I really cant stand Hannity either, but ill watching him from time to time.
I think Oreilly gets a bad rap, i really think he tries to stay in the middle and he has said some things to back up Obama that people just skip over. I think hes prob the most middle of the road guy on there.
Beck is way out in right field (even though hes not a republican) but some of the stuff he talks about i will agree with or know what hes trying to say.
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I agree with bu villain, it is just time for everyone to drop all the petty bs that exists in the political sphere. There are more important things to concern ourselves with. Hatred shouldn't be felt towards the opposition, but rather a mutual respect and admiration.
I'm by far not a beck nut swinger but there are alot of people who look to him like they look to people like Michael Moore. ( I don't see much of a difference in the two myself.) I do find that i agree with some of becks commentary but as with everyone else the drama gets old as hell.
It's just especially on sites such as this you continuously see arguments and "debates" over which side is honest and which side is just out to get you. Honestly though, both sides put spin on everything. Everyone has their own thoughts and beliefs; to assume that there is any one person on this earth that thinks and believes everything EXACTLY as you do and who truly stands for you is just naive. Educate yourself however and rise above petty nonsense. Decide for yourself and use pundits to inform your own decisions not to guide it entirely.
i actually found a new 9/11 video that came out like 9/10/09 that is by far the most questioning and thurough video i have ever seen on the subject. there are alot more scientists, pilots, etc that are in it. it is called "911 mysteries demolition", you can get int real fast on azureus as a torrent. the older videos had some points to it but this one takes the cake and really makes you ask yourself a few questions. a scientist has actually come forward and analyzed some rubble and can trace nano thermite back to a specific company and just recently came forward with his findings.
I 100% agree on the federal reserve, it's a debt scam to us and it should be audited and destroyed. do a little history hunting and you will see the same family has ran the banks since out indeoendence and whenever a president refused or let the contract expire we had wars and economic chaos, lots of info on this out there. hell they have recently only lost like 12 trillion dollars, does that concern anybody. here is a history video of the rothchilds who still own like 75% of the holdings of the FED, the title sucks but interesting info in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc
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on info gathering, thats what i do, i dont stay glues to one site of tv station you simply can't cuz you will miss alot of stuff.
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I'll give you 10:1 odds that most of that money will never be seen again.
like losing it, loaning it to crooks, i have that video bookmarked and laughed my ass off at it. that kind of $$ should be accounted for at all times even if put on the spot infront of congress. also isn't it bad that they won't tell us who all got the bailout money, it is our right to know since we will be paying for it for the next 200 years.Its not that the fed "lost" the money, its that they couldn't produce a rundown of all the places the money was when they were put on the spot in front of congress. The money isn't gone, they just need time to produce a report on all of the different things the money has been used for.
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i'll put 12 trillion on it!!!!
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It is my understanding that banks have paid most of it back already, and that GM is seeking to pay theirs back as well. Also, since these are loans that bear interest, when its all said and done the Gov't will have made a return on their money. I'm not saying I approve of this corporate welfare, but its really not the big deal its made out to be by the wingnuts.
You're not looking at the big picture. What this has done is changed the game. It's now accepted that if you're a big corporation you can make bad decisions that hurt everyone and the taxpayers will bail you out. We basically just subsidized failure. This in turn, encourages more failure. It's the same thing we've been doing to our children for years. "It's okay little Billy. You're still a good little boy despite failing your classes, throwing temper tantrums, etc. If you fail high school you can just live with mommy."
This whole economic downfall just shows how brutal free market capitalism can be. Bailouts or not, we would still be in a messed up situation right now. The question is which is the lesser of two evils?
Our economy doesn't resemble free market capitalism in any way. We have been a highly regulated capitalistic economy for quite some time. Let us not forget that it was the government's idea to start giving out and backing these bad loans to begin with.
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